posted ago by mpow13 ago by mpow13 +24 / -0

Was watching Elijah Schaffer on the You are Here show on You Tube Link and around 6 mins in the Brandon dude was saying that Q people think JFK jr is alive.

I remember Q answered someones question when directly asked about it and said that Jr is not alive. Point Blank.

So wtf is going on? Sounds like some Q people don't follow along enough to know that Q said that, but also that the people making fun of Q followers also don't know that Q said that.

Becomes an easy way to straw man the whole conversation

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magglepuss 8 points ago +8 / -0

I really wish that we would get better at figuring out how to fight these people. Everytime they come after us, we fold like a cheap suit. Lets make them explain their positions for a change.

First, we don't have to come to any conclusions But, we must be able to ask the questions, or at least make a reasonable case for the question

So, lets say your a reasonable, sane person. Your dad and your uncle have both killed by the deep state. You understand how dangerous these people are JFK Jr even listed the clintons arkanside list in either George magazine or the book he wrote. This was at a time when most of us would have only spoken about it in whispers because someone might call us a conspiracy theorist. Also, around this same time Hillary decided to run for NY senate Guess who NY wanted? You guessed it JFK Jr. Now, when the security for the supposedly most powerful man in the world cannot keep POTUS safe, or his brother who is running for POTUS, then how is it going to keep JFK Jr. safe?

I would guess he knows lots of white hats, and was good friends with Trump. We know Trump has been working with the white hats to save this country, but we don't know for how long I am going to guess decades.

I think it is very reasonable to think that Jr. went into some kind of protected everyman role

I will say though, the worst proof, imho, that he is dead is that q post. When asked if JFK Jr is alive, what is Q supposed to say? If Jr. is dead, then the answer is correct. If Jr is alive do you think Q is going to out him and possibly get him killed? Also, of course there is a death certificate with Jr. name on it, so in either case Q would be telling the truth.

Bottom line we must take their gottcha nonsense and turn it around on them.

standwithuQ 6 points ago +6 / -0

That would mean using your brain and critical thinking which includes the ability to QUESTION EVERYTHING and to "Think for yourself" which is ALSO in a Q post. Even here MANY cannot do that. They want quick answers to everything that can't be questioned while people pat themselves and each other on the back for being 'truthers', and "open-minded. When certain topics are off the table then we are NOT either of those things.

Aditon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, no longer is western culture healthy and thriving. It is engaged in a dying, flailing tantrum. It seems hope is lost and we stand in uncertainty, not knowing what is coming.

I think people, or "normies", just need to be reminded. They need this madness that you and I have been so closely examining, to manifest in their life in a real way. That's why we always have to be welcoming to them. They are getting close to ready to wake up to reality or truth.

Not everyone is willing to live life constantly pulling the earth out from under themselves to examine the depths below. The depths seem awful deep if you don't have a hope or a light that shines through.

What keeps you questioning, u/standwithuQ, yet not fearing standing on shaky ground, in darkness, alone..?

Greekish 7 points ago +7 / -0

A lot of people have suggested that JFK jr is still alive. Much of it is based on videos of Trump rallies and on photos such as this:


Those people look VERY much like older versions of John John and Carolyn and people have even done facial matching with image software.

But body doubles are everywhere so it might be true or it might be a "flat earth" type operation to make us look stupid.

I'm keeping an open mind. I simply don't know.

standwithuQ 3 points ago +5 / -2

It's funny, you saying you're "keeping an open mind" on the JFK jr being alive after calling flat earth stupid. Q said he's dead. I still think he may be alive because I've looked into all the info on the supposed death by plane crash. Q literally said to question EVERYTHING. The shape of the earth and whether it moves or is stationary, whether the sun and moon are as far away as they say, whether planets are, and look like what they say, etc would fall into the category of EVERYTHING. [they] desperately want us to believe we live on an insignificant spinning ball being thrown through an ever-expanding universe. You all trust that 'science' huh? Just like the 'science' of evolution (bogus) and the 'science' of multi-genders and the science of 'viruses' etc. etc. Meanwhile [they] re-write history at their own discretion, and hide whatever they wish to. [They] want US to believe we are nothing special and our planet is an insignificant speck that happened by CHANCE from some random BIG BANG. Being "open-minded while NOT questioning EVERYTHING is impossible, kind of like 200 genders.

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Munchaussen 2 points ago +2 / -0

BOOYAH.....THIS 100%

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standwithuQ 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not true. You sound like a lefty. If you think a spinning wet ball flying through space after a random big bang is a "working model" then YOU are the one who is "retarded" literally. You're thinking is limited to what you've been trained since childhood to believe without question.

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standwithuQ 1 point ago +1 / -0

AGAIN with the "retarded"! Why are you even on a board called, "great awakening" when you are truly still asleep. This IS a Q board and Q said to "question everything". You should be at a different location.

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yoohoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've questioned if the Earth was truly flat, too but UncleHooly provided a good proof against it. Can you provide a good counterproof to it?

Gandiva 1 point ago +2 / -1

Dude, you need to stand down. UncleHooley has completely owned you in this argument, both on the factual merits and on what constitutes the scientific method. The reason why he's slapping you just a bit is because you're not arguing anything on the merits. He's calling you a retard not as an evasion of meritorious arguments, but because you embarrass yourself because you cannot follow the simple rules of evidentiary argumentation. The fact that he is even engaging with you demonstrates that he hasn't abandoned all consideration of your dignity. He never denied your ability to question everything, he only made an argument as to why you could only reasonably question this particular belief if you had a better way of explaining it than the generally accepted paradigm. You fail to do this, therefore concede the loss and move on.

yoohoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

You provide a good observation. Also, Polarus doesn't move because it lies in a really, really long isoceles triangle away from us. Our Earth's orbit around the Sun, from one end to the other makes the length of the base, and the two legs make a nearly 90° angle from our orbit to reach Polarus. The third angle at Polarus is practically 0°, hence why Polarus appears to be stationary as of now.

standwithuQ 1 point ago +2 / -1

It would actually be nice for people to research the topic and have a discussion about it but the topic is immediately shut down. We acn talk about the possibility of dead people faking their death, aliens, demons, even lizard people but as soon as someone questions the globe model of the earth(that has existed a short time) a person is called "retarded". Seems like people are scared to discuss it rationally.

Trumpternal 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't want to bother arguing the evidence of why it's a globe or why it's not. I just want to say many people on this board are very open minded. I can't speak for everyone, but I at least looked into flat earth. I wanted to prove the globe theory wrong, but I couldn't. Instead I kept debunking flat earth.

One simple thing I always look at is how can any amateur with a good telescope look up, and see how the other planets in our solar system are without a doubt spinning spheroids. We have high tech cameras pointed at the sun all the time, we can see solar flares coming off a giant spherical sun, yet the earth is somehow flat?

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magglepuss 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do ya feel better? You found someone on the internet you didn't agree with, and boy you told him. Between you and the OP, well, we will make sure our own side is in lockstep to what you guys think.

The only reasonable response to this poster is that Q never mentioned this topic. Done Why be so insulting?

You have really made my original point. Our side refuses to learn how to fight. Instead we just keep coming after our own.

MW_Freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's difficult to have a conversation about the shape of the earth with humility as a prevailing trait.

I like to start by establishing something both sides should be able to agree on. Most Earth Curve calculators on the web return the same results within a very small margin.

Here I think is one of the most accurate ones ...


... and here is the documentation of the source code used in the calculations (from M.I.T) ...


If someone is unwilling to acknowledge the accuracy of this formula then IMO they've demonstrated their mind is closed. You and I both know the big "problem" is that in the modern world there is technology within the financial reach of average citizens to observe the shape of the earth over a body of water that previously was only within the financial reach of governments and major universities.

This topic is really not as unobtainably complicated as many would have us believe.

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magglepuss 4 points ago +4 / -0

The touch your nose video is very hard to argue with.

I think many of us don't realize that although we have taken the red pill, we still hold onto a lot of the brainwashing that has been done to us. The biggest of these brainwashing techniques is to defend how they try to portray us.

By no means am I saying that Jr. is alive! But, I will call out those who insist the question cannot even be asked by using ridicule. It is a very reasonable question,

The touch your nose video is a much better proof than the q question. I mean really, what is Q supposed to say? If Q answered yes, wouldn't that kind of defeat the whole point of faking his death, if that is what was done?

Gandiva 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree. "Misinformation is necessary".

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bubble_bursts 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dont confuse "Q people" or "Qanons" or any other Qutuber followers with actual people who have read Q drops, like us here.

Typically, these people follow specific telegram and gab accounts, and have never actually seen a q-post except in some lame "decodes". They dont understand anything about the movement and they believe what these people say as gospel.

False prophets are always a problem.

ATLAS_ONE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Q says a lot of things.

Trumpternal 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, he also told us to Trust Barr, Sessions, and WRAY of all people.

WhyAserverWasBuilt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Q people follow this because RFK Jr touched his nose when asked to do so during an online chat if he was alive.

Wrongthinkery 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it came from shitpost to troll HRC. People took it as fact instead of a troll or infiltrators are using it to discredit us. Case in point the Steinbart crowd. I have never seen grown ass women fan girls act like 12 year old girls at a boy band concert until Steinbart came along. I always thought he was creepy. The amount of shit I took for that was crazy.

ArmyLady 2 points ago +2 / -0

The left always defines who "we" are.

Come up with someone saying something, attribute it to over 50% of the nation who voted for Trump, or all white people. = > white supremacists, domestic extremists, etc. It is gas lighting.

Their purpose is to find a way to discredit Q and WWG1WGA.

JFK Jr. still alive is not a Q conclusion. They could find someone with BO, that doesn't mean we all stink.

GoGoOptomistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

This baffles me as I have yet to meet anyone who believes this. I do not in any way believe JFK jr. is alive, he’s gone sorry, plus the earth is round it rotates around the sun, God created it all. The End.

KingMike22 1 point ago +1 / -0

What Q post?

bubble_bursts 1 point ago +2 / -1


Context is that the chans were getting bombarded with shills sliding into the forums with JFK Jr and creating distraction from real digs and also creating contexts.

So during a Q&A with Q, someone asked whether JFJ Jr is alive and Q answered "No". People still come up with some rationalisation for this answer and how No does not mean No.

Aditon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes I believe that's exactly why they did the false "QAnon meeting in Texas". I think they are just flailing to spin critical thinkers as nutjobs, without realizing that this particular attack is easily deflected with Q's own words, haha.

ImGumbyDammit 1 point ago +1 / -0

Telegram groups are a problem. People join pages for the outrageous conspiracy theories and are not disappointed.

The-Amazing-Rando 0 points ago +1 / -1

It is pretty simple. If I can't prove JFK Jr is alive, then I don't need to be throwing it out there. It is none of our concern. We are watching a movie. If the end credits show JFK Jr, then so be it. I know one thing. I see an ongoing forward progression with the plan.

pedewithweed 0 points ago +2 / -2

Grifters, basically. Notice the same people that promote JFK Jr are the same people touting the nesara/gesara bullshit and seeming to lead you down endless rabbit holes, while also trying to sell you X product of theirs.

Then they go off the deep end and spew flat earth bullshit, which tells you all you need to know