It was NOT on video. The problem is they suspected a crime of Misdemeanor degree which does NOT constitute a citizen's arrest. Now we can argue those implications, but the law is the law and in this instance both men tried playing cop and are paying the price
I think they were convicted of "felony murder" which is not the same as "murder." It refers to a situation where someone dies during the commission of a separate crime.
The "separate crime" presumably in this case is doing a citizen's arrest over a misdemeanor. If that is a felony and if someone died during the arrest, then they would be able to nail them on felony murder.
IMO this case is still a huge miscarriage of justice and does not portend well to those who want to simultaneously have the right to defend their neighborhood while also living among blacks.
People may have to simply live apart from blacks in order to avoid these problems in the future.
It is because the response to the crime did not necessitate them confronting him armed. Laws regarding citizens arrests are pretty clear that if it isn't a misdemeanor, it isn't your jurisdiction. So it can be articulated that them approaching him armed was already them overstepping their bounds regardless of Arbury committing theft.
Now I don't entirely agree with those distinctions, but I am also not for rescinding those laws unless everyone goes through police academy training in high school.
No wonder I haven't been hearing lefties going on about this case. They're actually guilty, or incredibly stupid to incriminate themselves so thoroughly.
Yes. There was a struggle for the gun (one on one, as another watched from the truck bed, and another filmed). Some of the struggle was not in the video. Arbery was shot, staggered a bit and went down.
Don't know the in's and out's of this one, like I did with Kyle's, but wasn't this all on video also?
Didn't Arbery try to run up and take their gun?
It was NOT on video. The problem is they suspected a crime of Misdemeanor degree which does NOT constitute a citizen's arrest. Now we can argue those implications, but the law is the law and in this instance both men tried playing cop and are paying the price
I don't get it, how does that lead to a murder charge if that's the issue?
Arbery got shot after he ran up to them and (stupidly) grabbed a gun that wasn't pointed at anyone. That's not murder??
I think they were convicted of "felony murder" which is not the same as "murder." It refers to a situation where someone dies during the commission of a separate crime.
The "separate crime" presumably in this case is doing a citizen's arrest over a misdemeanor. If that is a felony and if someone died during the arrest, then they would be able to nail them on felony murder.
IMO this case is still a huge miscarriage of justice and does not portend well to those who want to simultaneously have the right to defend their neighborhood while also living among blacks.
People may have to simply live apart from blacks in order to avoid these problems in the future.
It is because the response to the crime did not necessitate them confronting him armed. Laws regarding citizens arrests are pretty clear that if it isn't a misdemeanor, it isn't your jurisdiction. So it can be articulated that them approaching him armed was already them overstepping their bounds regardless of Arbury committing theft.
Now I don't entirely agree with those distinctions, but I am also not for rescinding those laws unless everyone goes through police academy training in high school.
I just listened to this: https://youtu.be/K-KHz-mkQSU
No wonder I haven't been hearing lefties going on about this case. They're actually guilty, or incredibly stupid to incriminate themselves so thoroughly.
Yes. There was a struggle for the gun (one on one, as another watched from the truck bed, and another filmed). Some of the struggle was not in the video. Arbery was shot, staggered a bit and went down.
IOW, not very reliable.