I/DeathRayDesigner is an obvious shill. Of course shim did not watch the material but has a a lot of words against it (they are likely paid by word). Please don't waste your time on this obvious shill. Shim made a point to stalk mine as well. I am always interested in your posts and input. I feel we are on a very similar wavelength. This shill got me angry and please don't let it do it to you. Block and report the obvious shill. Curious why shim is so interested in derail8ng this particular thread. You are a good dude, don't let this looserbshill affect you.

Our lost/reset history is fascinating, no shil(s)l will be able to obstruct this research. God Bless!

Since all these people have been involved with long-range ballistic missiles and orbital flight, they most definitely do not believe in a "flat non-rotating earth." That is an approximation valid only where the distances reduce the flight path to a parabola and the time of flight is too short for earth rotation to be significant. Think being in your living room. Is the floor flat? Is the room rotating? (Actually, it is rotating, at about 0.0007 RPM, but try to notice it.) One of my favorite orbital mechanics texts is the one they use at the Air Force Academy.

If you have a case, it can be presented in a few sentences. It is not a subtle concept. You don't need 5 hours. I've seen these videos. All they amount to are recitations of the inability to understand certain phenomena---or to just have a fundamental misunderstanding. In all this, I think I am the only one who is offering information and explanation. If you want to prove the existing photographic evidence is bunk, offer your own photographic evidence. Ah, but you don't have any. And all you can do is complain about limitations. Funny that we understood the spherical earth from the 3rd century B.C. without any fancy science, and now that we are in the 21st century, you can't do anything but make videos about misunderstandings. Why not point out phenomena that can ONLY be explained by a flat earth? You can't. On that point, you are impotent.

Since when did the Bible believe in a flat, non-rotating earth? I've read it 3 or 4 times, paying attention each time. It only speaks of the territory of Israel (and Babylon). The Book of Job refers to the earth being hung in space from the northern wastes. Sure sounds like a dangling ball capable of rotating about the poles. In any case, that is what it is, as God has give us eyes to see and a mind to understand. If we are faithful to God, we believe what He gives us to see. Even Jesus commanded Thomas to see for himself.

At a height of, say, a thousand kilometers, it should be possible to see the whole earth as a round object (though maybe only a small fraction of the whole; greater altitude allows a greater picture). We see aircraft passing over the horizon from ground level, every day. It is hard to tell what you mean by "curvature of the earth." I have never spoken of it in connection with the lateral view of the horizon (though that does become more visibly curved with higher altitude). But it does arise from objects that pass over the horizon and are lost from view. In any case, we have flown around the earth and orbited around it, facts which you cannot disprove, so you need to get used to them.