My mom called last night and said that i will not beable to go visit them anymore unless I get the vaccination. She says she is worried about me giving the virus to my dad becauae his immune system is not very good right now, he is older. Is their some science to this that I dont understand? If i get the Jab, i can still catch and transmit it to others right? .. say i did get the Jab and I got covid, is it a less severe covid virus that I could spread? Thats the only thing that makes sense to me is maybe the Jab makes the virus less toxic to others if transmitted?
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I'd tell my mom not to be an idiot and send her a zoom link to contact me. But that's me.
tell her vaccinated people spread covid too.
I did.. and she knows it because a lot of our mutual friends are double vaxed and boosted and they are very sick, fever blisters and all.. so she knows this but she keeps saying that it's less severe if jabbed. As if... I don't even know anymore
omg we are dealing with severe mental hypnosis. tell her she is more likely to die from the vaxx than covid and that's a fact.
"...she keeps saying that it's less severe if jabbed"
Tell her you know plenty of people (in here) that have had it without a vax and it was a big nothing burger.
Most of the people my family know that "died from covid" were fully "vaxxed" Everyone that has had covid without these jabs are alive.
I think what there is to understand is that your mother is trying to manipulate you into taking this stupid fucking shot.
You can be as diplomatic as you'd like but you can toss the ball back into her court stating "I'm not getting the shot so I hope you do well." Maybe just add some fluff about meeting at a restaurant sometime in the future.
It sounds rough and sad but still, it was HER choice to bounce that on you. You know what the truth is, she thinks she does too. You're going to let her manipulate you like that? It's not abnormal for adults and their children to part ways. If she wants to make it a thing then so be it.
vaccinated have a higher viral load before they start showing symptoms, so are more dangerous to the vulnerable, but I cant find the links backing that up. Its self evident though, from all the "navy ship delayed, fully vaccinated crew gets covid" and "group of arctic scientists follow all protocols and still get covid" headlines I've been seeing
Here you go fren
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/
AP factcheck says this is misrepresenting the researchers claims, but if you look closely at it, it doesn't....
Yeah, give them RFK’s new book!
yep thats the study, thanks!
Tried to FB share it, I got a huge warning ⚠️ Said its very misleading
That's how you know it's correct, try posting an archive.is of it first.
Interesting.. so maybe there is a good reason to not visit my parents? .. My mom thought it was for her health but little did she know it was for mine?
Exactly
If you get the jab, you may find yourself too ill to visit anyone, or do anything else for that matter, similar to the peoples' stories at these sites.
Real, Not Rare https://www.realnotrare.com/
The Covid World https://thecovidworld.com
How do these people know that things are less severe if you have the jab than if you don't.....I think this is main stream bullshit. There are tons of articles out there right now with people being grateful they have the jab because now they have the virus and it is less severe.
I'm sorry this is your mother doing this to you but it is no different, in my eyes, than what the government is trying to do to you as well. Just say no......for now.
You are trying to find a rational explanation for an irrational fear spreading through the population. You really can't fight irrationality, so you have to accept and deal with it. It's a sad judgment on the human species, I know.
Your parents are probably of an age that held more trust in government, media, and pharma than we do today. If so they won't seek information that falls outside their comfy little box of government-approved pablum that passes for "news."
Treat them with love, but you won't be able to change them.
your parents are fucking ass-holes. Forget about them and move on with your life.
Tell her you understand and are sorry to hear that, but you are still open to them coming to visit you. Then move on to talking about the weather and the grandkids and such.
The variants breed and mutate in jabbed people. The 3x-jabbed are 3x as likely to catch the latest variant as the un-jabbed (study in Denmark has the numbers). The jab is marginally effective against the rona, sometimes, unless it isn't or unless it kills you, but even that questionable efficacy wears off in 3 months and makes your immune system weaker. Your immune system becomes progressively weaker with each new jab "booster." If a person had a weak immune system to begin with, the jab would make it worse, not better. The absolute irrational paranoia being driven by the mainstream media is crimes against humanity, is intentional, and anybody who still watches and believes their bullcrap doesn't know enough to come in out of the rain, when every one of their "facts" and predictions have failed, and every one of the so-called "conspiracy theories" have all come to pass.
Sorry to generalize, but elderly people are more driven by their fears. And the fear of dying is one of the biggest. They have been pounded with the message this virus is targeting them and the vaccines are their ticket to survive it.
If you can hold off for a couple months the discussion will probably no longer matter. If the post about the German Health Minister is true, Omicron is going to end the pandemic. He called it a natural, dirty vaccine that will make the manufactured vaccines obsolete. He wasn’t nice in the way he said it, but the message was clear. And, omicron is moving pretty fast.
She's quoting fake science. You are correct, if jabbed, you can get it and spread it.
Mass Formation Psychosis.
Use zoom/facetime/Skype.
While we're on the subject, it is absolutely beyond me how people have given up their sovereign right to think for themselves. There are stories everywhere of people who've had every shot and booster still getting this. So, whatever this jab is, it isn't a vaccine.
The other comment people make about "how much worse it could've been without the vaccine 😱😱😱" is a pure nonsensical what-if that has no answer. When someone says that, I ask them outright: how do you know it would've been worse?
They don't. It's not possible to know that, yet people say it all the time. They just don't know how unintelligent and uninformed it makes them sound. It's the fear that's the important thing.
I saw a brilliant meme of Yoda here on GAW recently: "Injected with a mystery serum you are. Vaccinated you are not." Funny in his voice, but brutally honest as well.
I bet your mom is a smart person, but it sounds like she's buying into the fear, and you'll need to be patient while that burns itself out. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
germany, denmark, dr. malone and some others are saying the plandemic will end in a couple months because of omicron variant causing ww natural immunity. So let your parents know a safer cure is coming very soon and you'll see them later when that is available. they are not likely to listen to criticism of the vax. Just YOU don't take it. It's deadly.
Have zoom visits. Simply comply with her request. She is gonna feel like such a dumb head when the truth can no longer be avoided! Please don’t get the jab, though.
Just my opinion but I would stay away for now. This is gonna pass and you do not want anyone to blame you for your dad getting sick or worse! Be patient.
"say i did get the Jab and I got covid, is it a less severe covid virus that I could spread?"
The symptoms of covid are a nothing burger TO BEGIN WITH! Prevax or postvax. The vax does nothing regarding covid - except spread it.
Try to find the 40 minute video that got Dr Robert Malone kicked off Twitter. Watch it and never again entertain getting the vax.
I'm sure to many it is a nothing burger, I was surprised when I watched the Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan podcast, the Dr. Said he had a rough time when he had covid.. he said he thought he was gonna die. Was surprised he said that.. but I'm sure it can be bad for some
I've had many flu's that I thought were "different" and that I was "gonna die."
Nothing new here....
Good point
So the incubation part.. I think I have heard that before.. however, in my case here... the only safe for sure way to visit my parents would be to get a covid test before I went and see them right? The vaccination is not gonna protect them any for they are already vaccinated and vaccinated people can still get and transmit the virus. I think the big thing here that no one really talks about is what Dr. Mccullough and others are talking about and that is that natural immunity is much more robust and more long term vs the vaccine immunity... do you agree with them there?
That would be the safest thing, yes. If you test negative, you should be in the clear. However, testing has been shown to not the be most accurate.
Natural immunity is definitely good, I don't know enough about it to know if it's better, but natural immunity can have consequences in that to get natural immunity, you have to get sick. Not everyone will be able to withstand the illness without having major complications. Thus, for those people, vaccination will be a much safer course of action for them.
I couldn't find our old thread where we were talking about the 75 years FDA wanted to release those documents.. it looks like the judge just ordered they must release those documents in 8 months now 😳
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I have to know, is your name Traci? You sound so much like someone I know..
Nope!