No, but to have true accountability, and to establish true justice (which also involves mercy - there is no justice without mercy), then proportionality is a factor.
Which means figuring out who is culpable, and to what degree.
In WW2, the "I was just following orders" = not valid defense thing applied to war criminals who did horrendous things, like colonels, and majors, and captains, etc, or privates who actually rounded up people and murdered them. Not to regular army, and not to those who were simply part of the system.
If those who create the new system approach this from a vindictive, revengeful position, and just want to vent their rage by balming every single person, well, justice ain't gonna come that way.
I agree with fuguring out who is culpable and to what degree -- but, also feel the old addage "Don't shoot the messenger" should not apply when mass lives are lost, regardless of degree of involvement. Can't negligence can be considered a crime if the intent was to gain something in return by shielding the truth that resulted in the loss of lives? I'm not fluent in legal, nor the nuances of the different murder charges, but think involuntary manslaughter could apply in this case. I do think some sort of kickbacks were offered to media outlets and doctors for withholding life-saving information and not deviating from the narrative. Threats and societal condemnation for speaking-up were/are also at play.
Thank you for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
Yes, now that we start to enter serious discussions, such things will have to be figured out.
I think a key factor will be "knowingly". Also, there will HAVE to be some place for forgiveness. We don't want to perpetuate the old system of hate.
With regards to Media, as a whole, I find the Media to be the MOST culpable, that is, particularly here in Australia. The evil pollies, the corrupt bureaucrats, the big pharma, etc, none of this could have been done if not for the Media.
But in Media, not all reporters and journalists will have the information.
But in all areas, I think that the range of accountability and the price paid will vary massively across the spectrum. Some people will be disgraced, and will suffer that disgrace their whole lives, others may lose their careers, and there should be different levels of prison and other sentences. Least, I imagine it this way.
A principle of a school who simply went along with the narrative or maybe even volunteered her school to be a vax distribution point, etc, well, shame, and some mild penalty may suffice. But the govt officials and ministers who orchestrated and lied directly to the public, these people will pay with long sentences. The death penalty will be reserved for the real criminals whose actions and decisions were dishonestly made and whose actions affected millions.
But I resonate with Reiner Fullmich when he says, we will probably set up a new justice system. Our judiciary, our governments, the whole system is so riddled with corruption and evil.
In Australia, I think the future will involve common law courts, where people are held accountable by the people, by their peers, and not by career judges who are compromised, or beholden to the State rules system.
There is no going back. The new world is going to be different from anything we've seen until now, although we have had many hints throughout history, they have been but shadows.
No, but to have true accountability, and to establish true justice (which also involves mercy - there is no justice without mercy), then proportionality is a factor.
Which means figuring out who is culpable, and to what degree.
In WW2, the "I was just following orders" = not valid defense thing applied to war criminals who did horrendous things, like colonels, and majors, and captains, etc, or privates who actually rounded up people and murdered them. Not to regular army, and not to those who were simply part of the system.
If those who create the new system approach this from a vindictive, revengeful position, and just want to vent their rage by balming every single person, well, justice ain't gonna come that way.
I think Rust's comments are valid and relevant.
You write very eloquently and I enjoy your posts.
I agree with fuguring out who is culpable and to what degree -- but, also feel the old addage "Don't shoot the messenger" should not apply when mass lives are lost, regardless of degree of involvement. Can't negligence can be considered a crime if the intent was to gain something in return by shielding the truth that resulted in the loss of lives? I'm not fluent in legal, nor the nuances of the different murder charges, but think involuntary manslaughter could apply in this case. I do think some sort of kickbacks were offered to media outlets and doctors for withholding life-saving information and not deviating from the narrative. Threats and societal condemnation for speaking-up were/are also at play.
Thank you for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
Yes, now that we start to enter serious discussions, such things will have to be figured out.
I think a key factor will be "knowingly". Also, there will HAVE to be some place for forgiveness. We don't want to perpetuate the old system of hate.
With regards to Media, as a whole, I find the Media to be the MOST culpable, that is, particularly here in Australia. The evil pollies, the corrupt bureaucrats, the big pharma, etc, none of this could have been done if not for the Media.
But in Media, not all reporters and journalists will have the information.
But in all areas, I think that the range of accountability and the price paid will vary massively across the spectrum. Some people will be disgraced, and will suffer that disgrace their whole lives, others may lose their careers, and there should be different levels of prison and other sentences. Least, I imagine it this way.
A principle of a school who simply went along with the narrative or maybe even volunteered her school to be a vax distribution point, etc, well, shame, and some mild penalty may suffice. But the govt officials and ministers who orchestrated and lied directly to the public, these people will pay with long sentences. The death penalty will be reserved for the real criminals whose actions and decisions were dishonestly made and whose actions affected millions.
But I resonate with Reiner Fullmich when he says, we will probably set up a new justice system. Our judiciary, our governments, the whole system is so riddled with corruption and evil.
In Australia, I think the future will involve common law courts, where people are held accountable by the people, by their peers, and not by career judges who are compromised, or beholden to the State rules system.
There is no going back. The new world is going to be different from anything we've seen until now, although we have had many hints throughout history, they have been but shadows.