Saw this on 4chan -sorry if someone already posted - super relevant for this board
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I suggest we meet people where they are at & help them grow from there. I agree with the sentiment that our nation needs to turn toward God & his son Jesus Christ, and porn/self gratification is a huge reason families are torn up.
Many may disagree with some parts of u/axrevolutionai comment, though after consideration I couldn't down or upvote. The root cause is a drive for short term self gratification based in a lower critically functioning/lack of foresight mind. I believe that is the core of their comment.
I cannot imagine a world where my lord & Savior supports or approves of porn. That said, I also know he wants each individual to rise above those primal instincts, as well as helping each other to do so through love & compassion for those whom have such a weak will that they fall into these traps that is low hanging fruit for those who struggle with delayed gratification.
Lord knows I need all the help I can get for my short comings & weaknesses. Infighting will only give the adversary a tool to destroy our sides ability to work together to conquer this global problem.
I think the main issue is the hardline belief that Christianity is the only way, and not just that, but it's a specific form of Christianity that is the only way. I consider myself a Christian, but to be honest, I have a lot of personal beliefs that most Christians would disagree with.
I agree that for a lot of men porn is a problem, but for a lot of men, it isn't anything more than entertainment. There are also couples who consume porn together, and porn specifically for women is a growing genre. We can't, as a political group and as patriots, expect everyone to live their lives according to one single religious doctrine.
For what it's worth, I don't consume porn. I watched a little as a teen (curiosity, hormones) and never kept watching it. I think actual porn is pretty boring and needless. I don't understand the actual sexual pleasure people get out if it.
However, lots of people here would say looking at pictures of pg13 bikini models is the same. They'd quote a million bible verses (as people here already did) and feel the need to condemn me not knowing where I stand. I don't fap, I don't lust, I like aesthetic pictures and don't think there is anything dirty or sinful about the female form.
Frankly, I think the downvotes are people so insecure in their faith and afraid of their own potential for sin that social piety is the only way they can keep on the straight and narrow
I see where you are coming from & try to live my life based on principle & even avoiding the very appearance of evil. That said, I too have beliefs that are outside the mainstream of my church, though the core is always consistent with the correct/eternal principles we claim to try & follow.
I have helped open minds & have had some great discussion where at times my wives have elevated/changed & at other times I have been able to educate others on knowledge they didn't have.
I figure most of these individuals are well intentioned Christians who are repeating the traditions & rules set up to keep them safe, which is a good thing for anyone who has not looked deeper to figure out why the rules are there.
Thanks for being a part of the great Awakening & your voice in this discussion.
Nope. For me it’s your misleading comments, helping Satan right along his hedgerow path. Not willingly, I don’t think. But your opinion is, “God wants us all to be happy”. And with that, sure it may be sinful, but I’m a good person, I don’t hurt anyone, and I know I sin....and this is what is terrible. God does want you to be happy. But He hates sin. And we all sin. You say you don’t lust. Yes you do, you already admitted it. Do I, sadly yes, and I hate it. You should hate sin. Every Christian should, as God hates sin. And all sin is the same. There is no big sins and little sins. A hateful thought about your brother, is the same as murder to God. So why embrace some sins as ok? Hate them. Do better, we all can. And as Christians, we have to point out sins, so we can help each other. Not to fall for Satans traps.
In one instance Satan will tell you, “look, God wants you to be happy, you’re not Jesus, your not perfect”....and then once you do your act(s). “Your despicable, God hates what you just did. How pathetic are you? Your a terrible Christian.” See how that works? Don’t give excuses for these shortcomings. Don’t give Satan an opening. Fight! Sin is wrong, period. God still loves you, but if you can’t even try to get better, if you can’t even hold out for a day. How much do you obey God in the first place? It kills me to hurt Him. And I still do. Not nearly as bad as I used to. But thank goodness for Jesus, because none of us would have had a chance.
Yes let us help each other. But all this is more serious than your leading on with. Take God’s word serious. He doesn’t work for you, you work for Him. How good of a servant do you wanna be? Try. Fight against Satans evil works. I don’t want me, or you, or anybody to have any excuses when we stand before judgement. Know what your doing. And if you don’t know what to do, read, seek out God’s word. It’s all in one book.
But this, your words
“We can't, as a political group and as patriots, expect everyone to live their lives according to one single religious doctrine.”
Ain’t gonna cut it. With God, fence walking is vomit in His mouth. It’s all in, or nothing. And all in means trying. Doing your best. Working for God. And sometimes that best is severely lacking, I understand. But we have to try.