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Trudeau is apparently shutting down the Canadian internet tomorrow for 10 days (v.ylilauta.org)
posted 3 years ago by BasedRawMilkDrinker 3 years ago by BasedRawMilkDrinker +253 / -8
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– WeAreThePlan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

How could we counteract this?

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– y000danon 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
  1. Learn IPv6 and how the networking works https://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/basics/
  2. Find ways to access things solely using IPv6
  3. Begin researching networking projects that are based on IPv6 and circumvent DNS. People are currently doing simple things like masking your local machines MAC address ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4941 ) down to suggestions like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4941

THE BIGGEST THING? Get the fuck off Windows and never ever go back.

I'm not even kidding. If anyone here is serious about controlling your online profile - it's impossible on Windows. it always reports home and collects data about you - there is no way around that.

If you want to learn linux I am willing to workshop that kind of thing. I even carry bootable linux around with me on a USB stick wherever I go so i can easily boot any computer into Linux and run from there. Hell in collect I bypassed campus security by rebooting machines and circumventing a lot of that as their shit networks only knew how to deal with the native windows networking drivers.

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– WeAreThePlan 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have been avoiding Windows for a very long time. Interesting about masking a Mac address. I used Linux a while back, and rather miss it. Monster fast, among other things. I didn't know you could boot with Linux on a flash drive.

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– y000danon 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It’s not an Open Network. It’s closed.

Let me explain this. The internet we have now is just a super loose system where any server / connection is allowed over open public networks. Key word there is public.

Internet2 is a Closed Network - much like MilNets. Meaning each segment has to be explicitly allowed / authenticated with the next. Right now you can route out to wherever allows you to - which is usually public. Internet2 changes that you being stuck in a route ghetto. At most you can make the bubble you can route out to a bit bigger with permission from the network ( which again you have to authenticate to no matter what ).

VPNs don’t work. A VPN works by allowing you to connect to them and then outbound from their network elsewhere. That’s impossible in a closed system. There is no ability to mask who you are. Everything is explicit rather than implicit.

Yo be able to use this it would require an ability to authenticate a session other than yours for anonymity. We have no clue how easy hard that could be.

  • could be biometric scans & federal ID
  • could be your social and a pin

We don’t know

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– Mister_Winston 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Wow, your explanation just made me realize why IPv6 addresses have been leased for 20 years without any practical use. Usually people give up on a next gen technology if it's not used for 20 years, but no one ever questioned IPv6. I always assumed the explanation would be "We'll run out of IPv4 one day" but that never happened.

Imagine the disruption to every business that relies on IPv4 configs for their secure tunnels and portals. Will internal networks have to transition to IPv6? Will all human resources in the IT network industry have to be retrained for IPv6? It's going to be a mess.

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– y000danon 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Incorrect. IPv6 is being used at a growing rate. Maybe you meant to say it's not requried in most cases?

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– y000danon 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So Sergey Brinn outlined the nightmarish reason why IPv6 is wanted.

So the deal is pretty much this - the Internet of Things. Brinn stated

"With the proliferation of IPv6 we will be able to make every hair on every head, every blade of grass, every physical thing in the world - Internet Addressable. We can then feed aggregate data into Artificial Intelligence systems like Deep Mind. It will be like seeing through the eyes of God."

always assumed the explanation would be "We'll run out of IPv4 one day" but that never happened

It technically has depending on where in the world you are. For example Latin America Region ( LACNIC ) has already handed out their last IPv4s - https://www.lacnic.net/4848/2/lacnic/ipv4-exhaustion:-lacnic-has-assigned-the-last-remaining-address-block

Indonesia / India are also tapped etc and what typically is going on is intensive reclamation efforts to slab out IPv4 addresses in those areas and use them as interconnections of IPv4<->IPv6 gateways. Basically IPv4 over IPv6.

IPv6 training is ongoing for sure. i got mine 15 years back and then have spent lots of time adapting projects to being able to use it and allocate groups of the Addresses. I even had to teach people how to connect residential routers to Hurricane Electric IPv6 Blocks so they could use IPv6 on networks without it native.

I mean look at the system you are currently on. Most ISPs in the United States are dishing out IPv6 for their routing systems but people are not smart enough to realize it.

visit https://ifconfig.me and it will show you your IPv4

visit https://whatismyv6.com and it will explicitly tell your browser session to connect over IPv6

# lynx --dump  https://whatismyv6.com | grep -A2 'an IPv6 Address'
                You are connecting with an IPv6 Address of:
                   2620:0:28a4:4140:f{TRUNCATED FOR ANON REASONS HERE}
             [1]IPv4 only Test [2]Normal Test [3]IPv6 only Test

Remember also that you will have a fe80 prefixed IPv6 which is always going to be your local network like 127.0.0.1 is.

Most Cellphone Providers have been dishing these out, most cars have cell phones that have them, and more.

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