Let's talk reality here.... sure it's nice to have a few jerry cans around (as I do) but keep in mind that cans hold roughly 5-gallons, and enough cans for a fill-up could take 3 or 4 cans.... and those cans take up a LOT of room. And they have to be stored properly, so where in your house or garage are you going to store them?
Also, gasoline degrades over a few short months, so you need to stabilize the gas. I use a product called Sta-Bil (I think that's how it's spelled), and pour some into each can of gas.
Gas cans are heavy to lift and the pour spouts are rather large, so you'll need to be strong enough to lift and HOLD the can for several minutes while the can empties into your tank AND you need to use a funnel or type of add-on spout so you don't waste gas.
And you might be able to stock up enough gas for 2 or 3 fill-ups, then what do you do?
And of course there is the safety issue surrounding a highly flammable and volatile substance like gasoline. Careless handling can lead to death, horrible disfigurement, and PAIN like you've never known... and then what do you do?
Here is what such gasoline stock should be used for.... for emergency use, when gas is not available anywhere, at any price, you stop using your vehicles and hunker down at home. and you hope (but are prepared for) that you never have to use it in a real emergency, like getting a loved one to the ER, or bugging out to avoid a natural or manmade disaster.
If you are fortunate enough to live in a relatively safe place and you know who your neighbors are, better to "bug in", hunker down in place, and have plans to ride out the storm in a place you know and are ready to defend.
Given the choice between stockpiling gasoline or stockpiling ammo and food, I'd choose the latter.
Sustenance and defense should be the main priorities. Ability to render certain services can bolster these necessities. Skill, tooling and comms will be widely sought-after very soon...
Absolutely. There will be very few Rambos, if you're concerned about survival, get to know your neighbors and PARTICULARLY get to know who is like-minded and who you might be able to rely on in a SHTF situation. Some folks will just be a needy, unprepared, complaining drag on the group. Those who will be net assets are those who have the kinds of skills that will be needed. Welders, mechanics, medical personnel, people who can plant and nurture crops to maturity, and the list goes on. Former military and law enforcement folks will have certain "other" skills that will be useful.
Agreed, if a winter storm or hurricane is coming we get enough gas for the genny. I just told my husband yesterday we should have a big tank like the farmers have. But then you have the expense of the tank. Either way are screwed! It’s got to get way worse before it gets better. Hit those left, Biden lovers in the wallet. Unfortunately we will suffer also.
Love your user ID, big Moody Blues fan and comfortably numb...sometimes.
So I thought of another downside of storing gasoline... if the world becomes desperate for such resources, you'll have to fend off thieves and marauders with lethal force.
Thank You, I’ve been told a few times about Moody Blues & I do love that song. I’m using it because I’ve loved Elvis since I saw him on TV in Hawaii concert (I’m that generation, 70s kid) His song Moody Blue is about a woman & it fits me & my moods.
I agree people will always be looking for something to steal. We live in the country on a busy road with a lot of traffic & have security cameras & my husband has figured out how to use old smart phones as a camera. I’ve watched to much TV, see crook standing by gas tank & boom 💥
Gas prices are hype, generated by US. I look at neighbor Joe and his multiple car payments saddled with trickling sales tax and full-coverage insurance, and gas. Neighbor Frank has older cars he owns and regularly maintains himself. NO car payments and reduced insurance rates (because they're not protecting banks here) and annual repair bills equaling to 2 or 3 car payments, and gas. BEEN LIVING AND PUSHING THIS FOR 20 YEARS!!!
Lol my station wagon (Jetta tdi) gets that kind of mileage but a bike is a lot more fun and goes a lot more places :)
As for stocking up on gas unless your filling a 250-500 gallon tank like we have on the farms here it’s probably not feasible long term for driving purposes.
Shelf life on modern gas is a few months, you can stabilize it with fuel stabilizer and maybe get a year from it.
They also make funnels that supposedly can turn really bad gas into ok gas but I think they mainly filter out water.
If I was storing fuel beyond short term I would invest in 100LL from my local airport it can be used in most gas engines and has a decent shelf life 1 year on its own for sure possibly 4-5 stabilized and filtered. It’s what I run in my chainsaws.
I mainly stock diesel but just because I live pretty remote and my main concern is running my tractor so I don’t have to do physical labour.
And for anyone thinking “I’ll just get a horse”. They still cost more then a car to operate… maybe if civilization de-evolves more they’ll get cheaper ;)
We had put off buying me a new car because I’m happy with my 2005 with 140,000 miles. If my husband drives (to work) my suv or his truck it cost him $15.00 a day. That’s today’s prices.
So we are looking at suv with hatchback gets 30 miles to gallon. The problem with that is the car shortage. The salesman told us yesterday a used car is worth more today than it was there years ago.
He said the majority of the people are buying and keeping their used cars.
That tells me the average person understands the future is uncertain and that’s why they are hanging on old cars.
Take the 30 gallon caddy for 80 bucks. Let's imagine you get 30 gallons now at $4. Then at some point it reaches $6. You would have saved $60.
You have no even got your money for the caddy back :-P
If you are going to do this, just put a thousand bucks into oil futures. I just got out, because I reached ~40% gains. I think prices may be coming down a bit soon again, but they could very well reach $150 a barrel before they do.
Let's talk reality here.... sure it's nice to have a few jerry cans around (as I do) but keep in mind that cans hold roughly 5-gallons, and enough cans for a fill-up could take 3 or 4 cans.... and those cans take up a LOT of room. And they have to be stored properly, so where in your house or garage are you going to store them?
Also, gasoline degrades over a few short months, so you need to stabilize the gas. I use a product called Sta-Bil (I think that's how it's spelled), and pour some into each can of gas.
Gas cans are heavy to lift and the pour spouts are rather large, so you'll need to be strong enough to lift and HOLD the can for several minutes while the can empties into your tank AND you need to use a funnel or type of add-on spout so you don't waste gas.
And you might be able to stock up enough gas for 2 or 3 fill-ups, then what do you do?
And of course there is the safety issue surrounding a highly flammable and volatile substance like gasoline. Careless handling can lead to death, horrible disfigurement, and PAIN like you've never known... and then what do you do?
Here is what such gasoline stock should be used for.... for emergency use, when gas is not available anywhere, at any price, you stop using your vehicles and hunker down at home. and you hope (but are prepared for) that you never have to use it in a real emergency, like getting a loved one to the ER, or bugging out to avoid a natural or manmade disaster.
If you are fortunate enough to live in a relatively safe place and you know who your neighbors are, better to "bug in", hunker down in place, and have plans to ride out the storm in a place you know and are ready to defend.
Given the choice between stockpiling gasoline or stockpiling ammo and food, I'd choose the latter.
Sustenance and defense should be the main priorities. Ability to render certain services can bolster these necessities. Skill, tooling and comms will be widely sought-after very soon...
Absolutely. There will be very few Rambos, if you're concerned about survival, get to know your neighbors and PARTICULARLY get to know who is like-minded and who you might be able to rely on in a SHTF situation. Some folks will just be a needy, unprepared, complaining drag on the group. Those who will be net assets are those who have the kinds of skills that will be needed. Welders, mechanics, medical personnel, people who can plant and nurture crops to maturity, and the list goes on. Former military and law enforcement folks will have certain "other" skills that will be useful.
Agreed, if a winter storm or hurricane is coming we get enough gas for the genny. I just told my husband yesterday we should have a big tank like the farmers have. But then you have the expense of the tank. Either way are screwed! It’s got to get way worse before it gets better. Hit those left, Biden lovers in the wallet. Unfortunately we will suffer also.
Love your user ID, big Moody Blues fan and comfortably numb...sometimes.
So I thought of another downside of storing gasoline... if the world becomes desperate for such resources, you'll have to fend off thieves and marauders with lethal force.
Thank You, I’ve been told a few times about Moody Blues & I do love that song. I’m using it because I’ve loved Elvis since I saw him on TV in Hawaii concert (I’m that generation, 70s kid) His song Moody Blue is about a woman & it fits me & my moods.
I agree people will always be looking for something to steal. We live in the country on a busy road with a lot of traffic & have security cameras & my husband has figured out how to use old smart phones as a camera. I’ve watched to much TV, see crook standing by gas tank & boom 💥
Gas prices are hype, generated by US. I look at neighbor Joe and his multiple car payments saddled with trickling sales tax and full-coverage insurance, and gas. Neighbor Frank has older cars he owns and regularly maintains himself. NO car payments and reduced insurance rates (because they're not protecting banks here) and annual repair bills equaling to 2 or 3 car payments, and gas. BEEN LIVING AND PUSHING THIS FOR 20 YEARS!!!
Shit, I need to buy a bike.
Lol my station wagon (Jetta tdi) gets that kind of mileage but a bike is a lot more fun and goes a lot more places :)
As for stocking up on gas unless your filling a 250-500 gallon tank like we have on the farms here it’s probably not feasible long term for driving purposes.
Shelf life on modern gas is a few months, you can stabilize it with fuel stabilizer and maybe get a year from it.
They also make funnels that supposedly can turn really bad gas into ok gas but I think they mainly filter out water.
If I was storing fuel beyond short term I would invest in 100LL from my local airport it can be used in most gas engines and has a decent shelf life 1 year on its own for sure possibly 4-5 stabilized and filtered. It’s what I run in my chainsaws.
I mainly stock diesel but just because I live pretty remote and my main concern is running my tractor so I don’t have to do physical labour.
And for anyone thinking “I’ll just get a horse”. They still cost more then a car to operate… maybe if civilization de-evolves more they’ll get cheaper ;)
We had put off buying me a new car because I’m happy with my 2005 with 140,000 miles. If my husband drives (to work) my suv or his truck it cost him $15.00 a day. That’s today’s prices. So we are looking at suv with hatchback gets 30 miles to gallon. The problem with that is the car shortage. The salesman told us yesterday a used car is worth more today than it was there years ago. He said the majority of the people are buying and keeping their used cars. That tells me the average person understands the future is uncertain and that’s why they are hanging on old cars.
Take the 30 gallon caddy for 80 bucks. Let's imagine you get 30 gallons now at $4. Then at some point it reaches $6. You would have saved $60.
You have no even got your money for the caddy back :-P
If you are going to do this, just put a thousand bucks into oil futures. I just got out, because I reached ~40% gains. I think prices may be coming down a bit soon again, but they could very well reach $150 a barrel before they do.
The only way to reliably store modern gas is to buy ethanol free, or 'pure' gas.
Modern ethanol laced fuel will go bad in a matter of months and those fuel stabilizes do not do as good a job as advertised.
Even then, storing bulk fuel is no easy task because of limitations of where it can be stored.