Can I ask for some advice here? I’ve already burned several bridges. I had a friend of decades text me last night saying “Please Respond! I don’t know what to think of your silence...”
The thing is she refuses to respond to me when I show her irrefutable evidence or ask very pointed and uncomfortable questions. Occasionally she’ll say “We should talk about this in person.” Which will NEVER happen. Or she jokingly tells me she doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry at my statements.
I realized through all of this that these people don’t love and trust me the way I assumed they did... they way I love them.
I love her dearly, but I just can’t keep pouring out my soul just to be belittled. What do you guys do???
I'll tell you what I told my kids as they were going thru highschool and having the same difficulties. Yes, this still applies because there's buttload of adults who never got this told to them.
Life is full of people you'll meet, some are good and some are bad and some float in between. People tend to call other people they think are good, "Friends". Thing is, people use the word "Friend" too easily to describe someone who's just a good acquaintance, not a real friend. You see, an actual friend would never demean or belittle you, never lie or take advantage of you, and never put you in a situation they wouldn't like to be in themselves. If any of your "Friends" have done that to you, they aren't a friend...they're just someone who fooled you into thinking they were. Learn to key in on the things those types who would take advantage of you for their own selfish reasons. When you get good at it, you'll realize that there's very few people in the world you can actually call a true friend. Hold onto them and support them and they will reciprocate, no matter what's going on or for what reasons....they'll stick by you. Those who don't were never a friend at all...
Words of wisdom and exactly what I have been saying for years. People do not know what a friend is and they confuse it with acquaintances - just as you stated. To have but one friend in a lifetime is a true blessing. When I think of real friendship I think of David and Jonathan in the Bible. Friends are not with you for what they can get from you beyond just the friendship. Friends are genuinely concerned in the welfare of the other and it is a two way reciprocal relationship - not lopsided with one party doing all the giving and work. You are right. If you are lucky enough to have that kind of friendship, guard it and cherish it because that is true treasure.
First don’t take it personal. It’s not about you, so leave the ego behind. Keep it to yourself or to others who think like you. You e got a great community here. Make simple statements and allow them to ask questions when the time comes. People haven’t had access to the information we have, spent the hours reading, and many don’t have time or desire to dig. When things start happening, you’ll have the answers. Be patient. Don’t let their plan to divide work. Be her best friend. In the end, family and frens are what matters!
Perfect attitude! Don’t let them divide y’all. You married her for a reason, get back to that. It took awhile to convince my BF. When I stopped talking about it (bc it was causing tensions) and just started preparing, his curiosity led to questions which allowed for open communication. When he would ask at first, I’d say “oh I’m just stocking up bc I hate the grocery or I need a winter project like gardening”. Eventually he started digging on his own. Now, we’re totally on the same page. Once their eyes open, they can’t shut them and they want to know everything. We’ve all been there. Some will be the vax, some inflation, my sister was SCOTUS. So, do your thing. Vent here. Go get seeds and pots and start your garden. BUT don’t let them win!
All of what you do and say echoes what I do in my own life with my family, friends, and also my “friends”
Better to ask questions and spark their interest and curiosity, rather than hit them over the head with factual information and evidence—they will inquire about about that soon enough.
Stay strong out there, because there will be those who need our help when this all comes to light.
Don't talk about it with them. They dont want to hear it. We aren't doing them any favors shoving it down their throats. Live and let live. Be the example. Not a mouth piece.
Another tip is to learn the art of remaining neutral. I have leftist friends I can totaly get along with because Im so good at remaining neutral.
Its not my true stance, and they know that, but I am able to see their point of view, or at least a neutral one, and pivot the conversation from there.
Them: "What do you think about Ukraine?"
Me: "both sides are garbage."
Them: "Fair point"
Vs
Me: "Putin is a white hat here to save us and Ukraine sells babies to global sex trafficking rings underground huurrrrraahh."
A little dramatic but thats really how we can come off with this stuff.
Perhaps you should reevaluate what it is you’re actually trying to share with your friend. If you really want to red pill them, I would stick with one topic in particular. Provide information on that one topic and hope you get through to them. Decide in advance which topic that will be, and don’t overdo it.
Also I would make an effort to meet with this person face-to-face, and not discuss anything controversial, nothing about politics or Covid or anything of the sort. Agree in advance that he will just enjoy each other‘s presence. Talk about your hobbies, your families, maybe share a cute cat video. I’m not sure what you’re interested in, but there’s got to be something that thought you should gather as friends in the first place; that has nothing to do with politics or world affairs.
You can’t force people to wake up. If you value the friendship, and you feel it’s worth the time, then invest in just that. Just a friendship. As you show love and compassion, and lay off all the propaganda stuff, they may see a difference in you, and let their guard down. Right now they feel threatened, because you’re pushing their bully system.
The cognitive Dissonance is strong. MkUltra is a strong drug. You’re questioning her reality, and they are fearful of that. You’re literally trying to open her mind to the truth, so she can wake up and see reality. However, from her point of you… You are a threat.
Get back to being friends again, feeling confident in that friendship, and working slowly on this person.
I learned a long time ago that the right to be right, it’s not worth losing a friendship over. Or a relationship over. Yes there are times when truth is truth, and you have to stand on that truth. However current affairs, and ideologies, are different for each person. Tread lightly!
Yes, good advice. I did that very suggestion with her, meticulously sharing only factual covid/virus related stuff, starting in March of 2020.
But by January of 2021 politics did creep in because it was so obvious the virus was being politicized. The statements coming out of her mouth were shocking to me.
Her thinking is very rigid and I’m quite certain that she will never come around. I’ve slowly come to accept it is what it is, in these last couple of months. But rather than lose my friend permanently, I will keep it simple and go back to the things that drew us together in the first place.
Thank you EVERYONE. Thank you for letting me share and for helping me to see things through a more loving, accepting and compassionate perspective.
Can I ask for some advice here? I’ve already burned several bridges. I had a friend of decades text me last night saying “Please Respond! I don’t know what to think of your silence...”
The thing is she refuses to respond to me when I show her irrefutable evidence or ask very pointed and uncomfortable questions. Occasionally she’ll say “We should talk about this in person.” Which will NEVER happen. Or she jokingly tells me she doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry at my statements.
I realized through all of this that these people don’t love and trust me the way I assumed they did... they way I love them.
I love her dearly, but I just can’t keep pouring out my soul just to be belittled. What do you guys do???
I'll tell you what I told my kids as they were going thru highschool and having the same difficulties. Yes, this still applies because there's buttload of adults who never got this told to them.
Life is full of people you'll meet, some are good and some are bad and some float in between. People tend to call other people they think are good, "Friends". Thing is, people use the word "Friend" too easily to describe someone who's just a good acquaintance, not a real friend. You see, an actual friend would never demean or belittle you, never lie or take advantage of you, and never put you in a situation they wouldn't like to be in themselves. If any of your "Friends" have done that to you, they aren't a friend...they're just someone who fooled you into thinking they were. Learn to key in on the things those types who would take advantage of you for their own selfish reasons. When you get good at it, you'll realize that there's very few people in the world you can actually call a true friend. Hold onto them and support them and they will reciprocate, no matter what's going on or for what reasons....they'll stick by you. Those who don't were never a friend at all...
Thank you. What you say is all true.
Painful but true.
Words of wisdom and exactly what I have been saying for years. People do not know what a friend is and they confuse it with acquaintances - just as you stated. To have but one friend in a lifetime is a true blessing. When I think of real friendship I think of David and Jonathan in the Bible. Friends are not with you for what they can get from you beyond just the friendship. Friends are genuinely concerned in the welfare of the other and it is a two way reciprocal relationship - not lopsided with one party doing all the giving and work. You are right. If you are lucky enough to have that kind of friendship, guard it and cherish it because that is true treasure.
First don’t take it personal. It’s not about you, so leave the ego behind. Keep it to yourself or to others who think like you. You e got a great community here. Make simple statements and allow them to ask questions when the time comes. People haven’t had access to the information we have, spent the hours reading, and many don’t have time or desire to dig. When things start happening, you’ll have the answers. Be patient. Don’t let their plan to divide work. Be her best friend. In the end, family and frens are what matters!
You’re 100% correct, they ARE trying to divide us and it’s working, just as planned.
I’ve decided to never talk about politics or viruses with her ever again. I’m done.
Well talk about gardening 🌺
Perfect attitude! Don’t let them divide y’all. You married her for a reason, get back to that. It took awhile to convince my BF. When I stopped talking about it (bc it was causing tensions) and just started preparing, his curiosity led to questions which allowed for open communication. When he would ask at first, I’d say “oh I’m just stocking up bc I hate the grocery or I need a winter project like gardening”. Eventually he started digging on his own. Now, we’re totally on the same page. Once their eyes open, they can’t shut them and they want to know everything. We’ve all been there. Some will be the vax, some inflation, my sister was SCOTUS. So, do your thing. Vent here. Go get seeds and pots and start your garden. BUT don’t let them win!
All of what you do and say echoes what I do in my own life with my family, friends, and also my “friends”
Better to ask questions and spark their interest and curiosity, rather than hit them over the head with factual information and evidence—they will inquire about about that soon enough.
Stay strong out there, because there will be those who need our help when this all comes to light.
Don't talk about it with them. They dont want to hear it. We aren't doing them any favors shoving it down their throats. Live and let live. Be the example. Not a mouth piece.
Another tip is to learn the art of remaining neutral. I have leftist friends I can totaly get along with because Im so good at remaining neutral.
Its not my true stance, and they know that, but I am able to see their point of view, or at least a neutral one, and pivot the conversation from there.
Them: "What do you think about Ukraine?"
Me: "both sides are garbage."
Them: "Fair point"
Vs
Me: "Putin is a white hat here to save us and Ukraine sells babies to global sex trafficking rings underground huurrrrraahh."
A little dramatic but thats really how we can come off with this stuff.
Thank you for your kind and profound words of Truth 🥰
Can I come meditate with you? 🙏🏻😇😅
Perhaps you should reevaluate what it is you’re actually trying to share with your friend. If you really want to red pill them, I would stick with one topic in particular. Provide information on that one topic and hope you get through to them. Decide in advance which topic that will be, and don’t overdo it.
Also I would make an effort to meet with this person face-to-face, and not discuss anything controversial, nothing about politics or Covid or anything of the sort. Agree in advance that he will just enjoy each other‘s presence. Talk about your hobbies, your families, maybe share a cute cat video. I’m not sure what you’re interested in, but there’s got to be something that thought you should gather as friends in the first place; that has nothing to do with politics or world affairs.
You can’t force people to wake up. If you value the friendship, and you feel it’s worth the time, then invest in just that. Just a friendship. As you show love and compassion, and lay off all the propaganda stuff, they may see a difference in you, and let their guard down. Right now they feel threatened, because you’re pushing their bully system.
The cognitive Dissonance is strong. MkUltra is a strong drug. You’re questioning her reality, and they are fearful of that. You’re literally trying to open her mind to the truth, so she can wake up and see reality. However, from her point of you… You are a threat.
Get back to being friends again, feeling confident in that friendship, and working slowly on this person.
I learned a long time ago that the right to be right, it’s not worth losing a friendship over. Or a relationship over. Yes there are times when truth is truth, and you have to stand on that truth. However current affairs, and ideologies, are different for each person. Tread lightly!
Above all love as Christ with love!
Yes, good advice. I did that very suggestion with her, meticulously sharing only factual covid/virus related stuff, starting in March of 2020.
But by January of 2021 politics did creep in because it was so obvious the virus was being politicized. The statements coming out of her mouth were shocking to me.
Her thinking is very rigid and I’m quite certain that she will never come around. I’ve slowly come to accept it is what it is, in these last couple of months. But rather than lose my friend permanently, I will keep it simple and go back to the things that drew us together in the first place.
Thank you EVERYONE. Thank you for letting me share and for helping me to see things through a more loving, accepting and compassionate perspective.
🐸 You are welcome FREN!