I think the #1 reason for electric vehicles is their limited range and centralized source of power. If control is the goal, wasting resources means nothing.
Originally, it was the self-righteous legislating morality. And they can be as much control freaks as any DS player. But it didn't take long for the criminal elements to capitalize on the situation. Prohibition financed a lot of criminals and DS families, and they may have had a hand in helping push the legislation through, and/or keeping prohibition in place as long as it was.
I never understood this argument. If you have solar cells on your house, you can travel pretty far in an electric vehicle without dependence on anything else. It essentially allows you to travel within a hundred miles of your house for perpetuity without having access to any other energy sources.
On the other hand, I know very few people who drill for oil in their backyard. If the government blocks access to gasoline, it completely restricts your movement unless you have been stocking up. Even then, you're bound to run out, and your mobility is essentially nothing.
Aside from the issue of being able to turn off cars remotely, which is true of just about all cars these days, I don't see how using an electric vehicle limits your mobility at all in a scenario where it would matter.
> travel within 100 miles of your house
> doesn't understand how it restricts movement
...bruh. Let's not forget it's damn-near impossible to repair one yourself, or the fact that your batteries start losing their ability to hold a charge rather quickly. You sound like someone who's only ever lived in a city.
That's a valid point, but how many people have solar panels on their roof? Have you priced an installation lately?
If you install solar yourself, it can be done affordably. But your range is limited by the battery, and "refueling" could be a challenge in some situations. You can easily double the range of your gas car by bringing along several cans of fuel.
But the important thing is to understand is specific energy, or the amount of energy per unit weight. In transportation, weight is everything, because weight (or mass) impacts the work your energy source can provide after hauling it's own mass around. Wikipedia is as good a source as any, so I included the link below, and the numbers are usually up to date.
Anyway, gasoline is 46.4 MJ/Kg, Li-Ion is < 0.9 MJ/Kg. 15 gallons of gas is < 100 lbs. What's the weight of a typical electric car battery? How far will a gas vehicle go on 100 gallons of fuel?
To be perfectly honest, a hybrid vehicle with a relatively small battery makes the most sense from an efficiency standpoint. If you don't mind the added complexity and a battery that degrades quite a bit in 3-4 years. The Rav4 hybrid seems like it might make a lot of sense. But I don't have $32K+ burning a hole in my wallet, and I don't like spending a lot of money on vehicles.
I think the #1 reason for electric vehicles is their limited range and centralized source of power. If control is the goal, wasting resources means nothing.
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And, the ability to turn them off remotely
That’s a factor of every new vehicle that has direct data/cell access.
Or an EMP.
I do agree that the idea of forcing EVs as the only vehicle is intended to limit mobility of civilians.
Might also be to force the use of mass transit on the public.
Gasoline refineries are pretty centralized. If you wanted to bring transportation to a halt, close the refineries.
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Was prohibition really about drinking or fuel?
It was about control and money
Originally, it was the self-righteous legislating morality. And they can be as much control freaks as any DS player. But it didn't take long for the criminal elements to capitalize on the situation. Prohibition financed a lot of criminals and DS families, and they may have had a hand in helping push the legislation through, and/or keeping prohibition in place as long as it was.
I never understood this argument. If you have solar cells on your house, you can travel pretty far in an electric vehicle without dependence on anything else. It essentially allows you to travel within a hundred miles of your house for perpetuity without having access to any other energy sources.
On the other hand, I know very few people who drill for oil in their backyard. If the government blocks access to gasoline, it completely restricts your movement unless you have been stocking up. Even then, you're bound to run out, and your mobility is essentially nothing.
Aside from the issue of being able to turn off cars remotely, which is true of just about all cars these days, I don't see how using an electric vehicle limits your mobility at all in a scenario where it would matter.
> travel within 100 miles of your house
> doesn't understand how it restricts movement
...bruh. Let's not forget it's damn-near impossible to repair one yourself, or the fact that your batteries start losing their ability to hold a charge rather quickly. You sound like someone who's only ever lived in a city.
While I tend to agree with you, the gubmint can shut your power off easier than it can shut your gas station off
That's a valid point, but how many people have solar panels on their roof? Have you priced an installation lately?
If you install solar yourself, it can be done affordably. But your range is limited by the battery, and "refueling" could be a challenge in some situations. You can easily double the range of your gas car by bringing along several cans of fuel.
But the important thing is to understand is specific energy, or the amount of energy per unit weight. In transportation, weight is everything, because weight (or mass) impacts the work your energy source can provide after hauling it's own mass around. Wikipedia is as good a source as any, so I included the link below, and the numbers are usually up to date.
Anyway, gasoline is 46.4 MJ/Kg, Li-Ion is < 0.9 MJ/Kg. 15 gallons of gas is < 100 lbs. What's the weight of a typical electric car battery? How far will a gas vehicle go on 100 gallons of fuel?
To be perfectly honest, a hybrid vehicle with a relatively small battery makes the most sense from an efficiency standpoint. If you don't mind the added complexity and a battery that degrades quite a bit in 3-4 years. The Rav4 hybrid seems like it might make a lot of sense. But I don't have $32K+ burning a hole in my wallet, and I don't like spending a lot of money on vehicles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density