Q said we would be the saviors of the world. My son is conservative but he has no clue what Q really has been, what we have learned, how much sleep we've lost, how many tears we have cried, how many panic attacks we've had as more has made sense in the broader picture. The soldiers from Vietnam got shit on so bad. I pray we are at least acknowledged as the 5th column that performed the assymetric warfare for the White Hats, researched where it was less detectable than in government systems, refused to back down, took all the name calling, censorship, ridicule, etc....AND WE NEVER BACKED DOWN!
ONE DAY I HOPE MY SON KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE REALLY DONE AND SACRIFICED FOR THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY.
WWG1WGA
UPDATE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸He has agreed to go to counseling. I'll be picking a Christian one. God is good. My son is a good man. He is just blinded by cynicism and my hope and faith seem like delusion to him. GOD BLESS YOU PEDES! YOUR PRAYERS WORKED ALMOST INSTANTLY!!!
We had a fight. I told him. I also told him I was done with his disrespect. Said some things I wish I hadn't. What's done is done. I'm sick of being abused. He knows I love him and that he is crushing my soul. Said that specifically. Told him to go home and make a baby so he could finally understand how hurtful he's been to me. 😢😢
Call him and visit him and have a coffee with him. Even if you need to travel across the country to spend 30 minutes with him. Allow him to be angry at you and strike you with his words and BRIEFLY tell him how hurt it makes you feel AFTER he's calmed down. Let him know you love him. Don't allow time to make you strangers. It'll be the worst mistake you've ever made because you will grow apart.
Ask him what he's been doing. Discuss his work and his life and his dreams.
If he hurts you then try to understand why and let him know how you feel.
This isn't about you.
You are an adult and he is finding his way. I guarantee you made mistakes because we all do. Take those lumps and move on. Be there for him even if it hurts. It's far better than the alternative.
Hes 28, a homeowner, successful, and very married. Not a child.
I've got a decade on your son, my dad is past 60. We'd go round and round (sometimes still do). He's always been a staunch Republican and I thought I centerist but the narative shifted and here I am labeled far right. I have been married and bought a house when I was 23.
The wife and house are long gone because of my pride and drinking that my father warned me about. He now sees his blind belief in the Bush family was wrong and Fox is controlled opposition. Plenty more examples I could point out where we changed each other's beliefs for the better.
His knees are shot and his back will be soon. I'm an alcoholic and it's tolerated because I'm an incredibly talented master electrician. He needs help and so do I. After years of fighting I quit my job and dragged my camper up here and I'm helpping him install solar and build a greenhouse. Went to church with him yesterday, grilled up steak and bickered sober in the hot tub.
I still think the people in his church "speaking in tongues" are attention whore liars and he still thinks Jews are chosen by god. I'll keep pointing out last names of those running politics, child trafficking and satanic groups. He'll keep inviting me to church and his AA meetings.
We're better men with each other in our lives. Just love your son and let him know opinions differ, vary and change but family is permanent. He ain't getting a different dad so he better spend some time with you before you go... even if you can only discuss dogs or the weather.
Thank you
I have tried so many times, sometimes its fine, he just won't let up if he disagrees with me. I get it. He's just like me. I just see that all his opinions about my life are colored by the fact that I've been a qtard for 5 years so obviously I'm not capable of any good decisions, no matter how detailed, thought out, etc. He doesn't even ask. He just immediately assumes I am missing a lugnut so the remainder is tainted. Q and my commitment are the CORE. I've tried everything. I keep my distance and keep praying. He is in GOD'S hands now. Tough love but it's love nonetheless. Thanks pede.
Then don't speak about Q or politics.
Talk about something he enjoys and is proud of. Talk about his work and learn the name of his boss and his best friend at work so you'll have something to ask him about during another visit. If he's renovating his house or even doing minor DIY fixes then ask him about how long it took and how it turned out. When your relationship repairs, you'll be able to ask him for advice if you need to fix something similar. DO NOT give him advice unless he asks. Just try to learn about what he is doing and how he feels.
I recommend you don't keep your distance.
Visit him. Be totally vulnerable. This isn't about you.
Even if you must drive across two states to visit him for an hour then do it. He'll know why you're there even if he doesn't acknowledge it. Make up a silly and obvious excuse if you want a laugh.
If you allow time to pass then your bonds will be lost and you'll have nothing to discuss. You won't know to ask about his friends or his workmates or his boss or his worries or his hopes or if he finished re-tiling his bathroom. You won't know when his wife becomes pregnant and he won't call you to ask questions about how to be a parent.
Your son doesn't need your arguments or stress or advice. The time for guidance has come and gone unless he asks for it. You only need to be there. You are not currently there.
That's my advice.
I really appreciate it. I don't talk about Q, haven't in several years. The damage is done. He believed me when we date fagged earlier. He thinks I can't face reality. I have done everything I know to do. I even offered to go to counseling together. I just refuse to be belittled. If I can stand up to the world and not my own child, what good am I?
May turn out to be the best thing. If I can go back that far I will link a post about a fight I had with my oldest. It was a doozy. Tough love from people here told me what I already knew. I needed to stop acting like a doormat and tell him to get out of my house if he found me and my beliefs so offensive. He did. And he checks in regularly and tells me he loves me every time we hang up the phone. The big blowout was emotional and I said some things I wish I hadn't, but so did he. We are closer now than we have been in years and when I begged him not to get boosted before doing extensive research from ALL SIDES, instead of acting like I was crazy he said, "yea, I looked into that and not gonna. The heart stuff kinda scary,"
Miracles do happen.
EDIT: Here's the original post. https://greatawakening.win/p/11S0l6lepr/my-young-adult-son-is-losing-his/
Thank you. He agreed to counseling with me. God is good.
Ma'am, telling him to go home and have a baby so he can finally understand is THE MOST gangsta (and absolutely TRUE) thing I've heard in a LONG time. 😲
Also, super glad to read the EDIT in the OP. God is AWESOME.
WWG1WGA
Why thank you. It's just true. His sister apologized to me after she became a mother. I apologized to my mother. He is a good person. He just worries too much about me and tries to parent me and crosses way too many boundaries.
I trust you and your son will do just fine in the long run. Thank you so much for sharing throughout this thread. You're a gem. 🤗
Thank you guys for being here for me. You're my tribe and I love all of you more than words can explain. I am so grateful for You're love and prayers. We are powerful here. We need to remember that. Today has been a miracle.
I agree. There are many days I wish I could tell my mom and dad, they were right, or I am sorry, and above all, I love you.