I put it in during the 2nd kneading process after the first rise.
For breads using roux/sponge/poolish --- I DON'T use salt at this stage.
Salt is a double edge sword --- it gives bread good flavor but it kills yeast growth.
Another trick is to put your SALT-LESS first stage roux/sponge/poolish/first-kneading in the refrigerator overnight. This will saturate the dough with CO2.
The cold will help the CO2 bubbles stay in the dough. The bubbles will grow when the dough warms up. The salt, killing the yeast, won't matter as much now.
I've noticed the yeast killing properties of salt. It is remarkable how many ways bread can go wrong and still be edible. I believe I have completely explored the space. Thanks for the new technique. Think I'll give it a try with bagels since they especially benefit from overnight in the refrigerator.
I put it in during the 2nd kneading process after the first rise.
For breads using roux/sponge/poolish --- I DON'T use salt at this stage.
Salt is a double edge sword --- it gives bread good flavor but it kills yeast growth.
Another trick is to put your SALT-LESS first stage roux/sponge/poolish/first-kneading in the refrigerator overnight. This will saturate the dough with CO2.
The cold will help the CO2 bubbles stay in the dough. The bubbles will grow when the dough warms up. The salt, killing the yeast, won't matter as much now.
I've noticed the yeast killing properties of salt. It is remarkable how many ways bread can go wrong and still be edible. I believe I have completely explored the space. Thanks for the new technique. Think I'll give it a try with bagels since they especially benefit from overnight in the refrigerator.
... then there is sourdough --- which requires a lot of patience to start an keep the starter.
There is a faux sourdough using plain yogurt. I only tries it once. It was sub optimal.
I'll try it again someday with some different variables.
Diastatic malt syrup is a must with bagels.
https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/blog/2022/03/14/difference-between-diastatic-malt-non-diastatic-malt-barley-malt-syrup