"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." (Nikola Tesla)
I've seen the curvature of the earth with my own eyes. I know it's real. Taking a backseat ride in a Tomcat will do that for you. So will going on a World Cruise or two on an aircraft carrier.
I've seen the curvature of the earth with my own eyes
No, you haven't - you merely believe you have. I can prove it. Please join us on the community I created to explore this further! You won't be disappointed as long as you engage earnestly!
I don’t care what people think it is. What does bother me is how upset people get that believe in a globe and calling names on those who don’t. Who cares what it is. Since we 99%’s can’t have full access to find out by flying anywhere, exploring anywhere then we don’t really know except what we have been told. So no one has a solid answer or valid opinion either way. There are many other issues to explore and find answers to.
OK, must have been multiple optical illusions. I guess we live on a flat earth!
I've observed the curvature looking out over Lake Huron from Oscoda, MI but really you MUST be right. I used a 3-foot straight edge on a tripod and asked other people to see if they could see it. Everyone was amazed that they could see it.
Ive flown all over the world and stood a top some of the highest peaks. You can not see the curve from a plane. Even the experts say that you are far too close to the earth to see a curve. The edge of the atmosphere is still too close. Amateur rockets have proven that.
The problem is when you think a ship sails over the horizon, you can increase zoom and it returns to view. I've done this myself.
Go to the beach and bring binoculars and a telescope. You can visually see it anymore, use the binoculars and like magic its back in full view. When it sails over the horizon again, use the telescope and again it will return to full view.
The problem seems to be the optics used and not any actual curve.
No, it's a heavily funded psyop to prevent you from every seriously discussing/studying the important subject.
I could see the curvature of the earth in every direction.
No, you didn't - you merely thought you did. I can prove it. Join us on the community I created and explore the topic more deeply! Flat earth research is nothing like you think it is!
The debate over the shape of the earth has been going on for a long time
Not really. Last century in small pockets.
Personally, I believe Flat Earth to be an amazingly powerful and intuitive thought experiment
I agree with the spirit of the statement, but in point of fact flat earth research (and science, likewise) is vehemently against "thought experiment" (which is merely mythology, and in no way experiment nor science)
I do not stand one way or the other until I can actually go up there and see for myself.
The world and its shape are down here. You don't need to, and won't benefit from - "going up there". Though if you want to go, it is very easy to do.
That said, there are two options.
Incorrect. This is known as a false dichotomy. There are MANY more possibilities that you are not considering. You should join us on the community I created specifically for such discussions and share your views!
The choice is between truth and fiction
Correct!
that won't change the shape of the earth. It will continue to be whatever it is whether we say its round or flat.
Spot on.
The debate really needs to end
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Flat is a synonym for smooth, the earth is SMOOTH! So the earth is FLAT!
Bowling balls, sans the finger holes, and billiard balls are FLAT!
It is a language game to them. It does not have to be a PLATE to be flat, it does not have to be a PLAIN to be flat.
The question they do not want you asking is how did anyone know, over 2000 years ago, that the earth was smooth without being able to measure and observe? They are hiding a past with advancements level or beyond our current. WHY?
It will be as it was in the days of Noah....
They have been able to use that little language confusion thing to take billions from the people at large to "prove or disprove" something that was already KNOWN! They hide information specifically to divide us and to steal from us and to mislead us.
The shape does not matter, what matters is that someone knew it was smooth before they should have been able to know.
This continues. How smooth is your brain not to grasp the concept that Flat and Smooth are interchangeable? Y'all the ones thinking that people are saying we live on a piece of paper! Seriously! Read a thesaurus!
For posterity, probably about 2 total hours. I was all for living on a piece of paper but a friend told me the earth was SMOOTH, mathematically, and I had to check it out, turns out they are the same thing! I miss that friend.
Conspiracies.win is two doors down.
Physics, not government, gives the answer, btw.
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." (Nikola Tesla)
You're right! But you are also very wrong.
Please join us on the community I created specifically for the exploration of this valuable subject!
Even in the Bible, Earth is referred to as a globe.
, Only in current century revised editions actually. King James Version and earlier it says it’s stationary, non moving and a circle.
Post the quotes.
I've seen the curvature of the earth with my own eyes. I know it's real. Taking a backseat ride in a Tomcat will do that for you. So will going on a World Cruise or two on an aircraft carrier.
No, you haven't - you merely believe you have. I can prove it. Please join us on the community I created to explore this further! You won't be disappointed as long as you engage earnestly!
I don’t care what people think it is. What does bother me is how upset people get that believe in a globe and calling names on those who don’t. Who cares what it is. Since we 99%’s can’t have full access to find out by flying anywhere, exploring anywhere then we don’t really know except what we have been told. So no one has a solid answer or valid opinion either way. There are many other issues to explore and find answers to.
Bingo, anyone not at least open to the possibility is willfully ignorant.
Flat earth is a larp. As a ten year old flying from Detroit to Hawaii at 40,000 ft. I could see the curvature of the earth in every direction.
Only if your windows are convex. You can’t see the curve in a plane. That reason is used a lot but isn’t a valid one. It only gets FE r’s more fuel
I'll speak real slow for you sir and spell it out: W I T H M Y O W N E Y E S
On many different flights over many years. AND through the cockpit windshield.
VALID as far as my own experiences are concerned.
My wife could see the curvature on a cruise ship (I've never been)
That is impossible. The earth is far too large to see the curvature at such a low altitude.
OK, must have been multiple optical illusions. I guess we live on a flat earth!
I've observed the curvature looking out over Lake Huron from Oscoda, MI but really you MUST be right. I used a 3-foot straight edge on a tripod and asked other people to see if they could see it. Everyone was amazed that they could see it.
Ive flown all over the world and stood a top some of the highest peaks. You can not see the curve from a plane. Even the experts say that you are far too close to the earth to see a curve. The edge of the atmosphere is still too close. Amateur rockets have proven that.
One more time for those in the cheap seats...
I'll speak real slow for you sir and spell it out: W I T H M Y O W N E Y E S
On many different flights over many years. AND through the cockpit windshield.
VALID as far as my own experiences are concerned.
My wife could see the curvature on a cruise ship (I've never been)
The problem is when you think a ship sails over the horizon, you can increase zoom and it returns to view. I've done this myself.
Go to the beach and bring binoculars and a telescope. You can visually see it anymore, use the binoculars and like magic its back in full view. When it sails over the horizon again, use the telescope and again it will return to full view.
The problem seems to be the optics used and not any actual curve.
No, it's a heavily funded psyop to prevent you from every seriously discussing/studying the important subject.
No, you didn't - you merely thought you did. I can prove it. Join us on the community I created and explore the topic more deeply! Flat earth research is nothing like you think it is!
I've seen a LOT of the flat earth videos/websites over the past few years. Still have not seen this PROOF you speak of.
You believe what you want to.
I'll believe what I have seen with my own two eyes.
Now you can call me by some derogatory name!
Look at #5
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/smooth
It's a language game.
earth is smooth if you factor height/depth by circumference
I find it depends on what jeans she throws on.
ETA: them titok pants tho
Not really. Last century in small pockets.
I agree with the spirit of the statement, but in point of fact flat earth research (and science, likewise) is vehemently against "thought experiment" (which is merely mythology, and in no way experiment nor science)
The world and its shape are down here. You don't need to, and won't benefit from - "going up there". Though if you want to go, it is very easy to do.
Incorrect. This is known as a false dichotomy. There are MANY more possibilities that you are not considering. You should join us on the community I created specifically for such discussions and share your views!
Correct!
Spot on.
All debate (and argument) does. It is merely base sycophantic pageantry, and is pablum beneath all earnest students and intellectuals. We favor earnest study and rational discourse! Join us - click my username (it's the only community I moderate)!
I think that it is much simpler than that.
Flat is a synonym for smooth, the earth is SMOOTH! So the earth is FLAT!
Bowling balls, sans the finger holes, and billiard balls are FLAT!
It is a language game to them. It does not have to be a PLATE to be flat, it does not have to be a PLAIN to be flat.
The question they do not want you asking is how did anyone know, over 2000 years ago, that the earth was smooth without being able to measure and observe? They are hiding a past with advancements level or beyond our current. WHY?
It will be as it was in the days of Noah....
They have been able to use that little language confusion thing to take billions from the people at large to "prove or disprove" something that was already KNOWN! They hide information specifically to divide us and to steal from us and to mislead us.
The shape does not matter, what matters is that someone knew it was smooth before they should have been able to know.
This continues. How smooth is your brain not to grasp the concept that Flat and Smooth are interchangeable? Y'all the ones thinking that people are saying we live on a piece of paper! Seriously! Read a thesaurus!
Flat is fifth on the list.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/smooth
Not bad for a flat brain, am I right?
It sounds like you have an interest in the topic (and have put some thought-hours in! Kudos!)!
Please join us on the community I created specifically for further evaluation of the subject!
Where that?
For posterity, probably about 2 total hours. I was all for living on a piece of paper but a friend told me the earth was SMOOTH, mathematically, and I had to check it out, turns out they are the same thing! I miss that friend.