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– yoohoo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The context for whiteness in the Psalms quote concern spiritual purity, not skin color. Ruddiness can mean "glowing with health". The Description of Sarah and The Book of Noah aren't in the Bible, thus they can't be counted.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good kill shot.

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– yoohoo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What good can come of saying only whites are special people? Why give in to the dark spirits baiting us to hate each other over the melanin in one's skin?

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To be baited to see them as less human then. Sounds like you view them as more special and intelligent, otherwise you wouldn't be posting about cranium sizes. The dark spirits love to divide people over superficial trivialities.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"What good can come of saying only whites are special people?"

You stated this. I didn't. I have never held any people are "special", nor have I been "baited" "to hate each other over the melanin in one's skin". Only you have stated this.

I believe in the immutable Laws of God, which is the foundation of His creation and is readily shown to us in Nature's Law. There's far more to this than you may recognize.

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– yoohoo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just an attempt to read between the lines here, that was my impression. I don't understand you then. But I will say it doesn't matter where someone is from, who their ancestors were, what color their skin is, what their genetics are, how big their cranium is, how big their nose is, how smart or dumb they are, how much money or property they have, how many kids they have or don't have, plus other things. They all have the equal decision to take to be grafted onto the Tree or not.

Not saying that you're saying this; I just want to state it:

We all put Him on that cross with our sins, not just the Jews.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If an extraterrestrial biological entity (EBEN) came to Earth, would it too be subject to this "Tree" you speak of? There's far more to this than you permit yourself to recognize. All of it is already addressed and shown to you by the Creator's immutable order. There's only blessings and consequences. No one can have it both ways. Nature itself is based on this axiom.

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– Shazxofshadilay 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Das Right!

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– winn 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I think Jesus was brown, which really simplifies things. Now nobody can complain. Kek

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– yoohoo 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Doesn't matter. He sacrificed Himself for all skin colors.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No Biblical verse specifically states this, but rather it is left unsaid.

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– yoohoo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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– yoohoo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

John 3:16.

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– ParkingLotRanger 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

He also said, “I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they shall hear my voice, and they shall become one flock with one shepherd.”

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

" And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." - John 10:16

These are of the same flock and shepard, but referencing they are scattered.

But he answered and said, I was sent only unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, Matthew 15:24

But he answered and said, I was sent only unto the scattered race of the house of Israel.

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– ParkingLotRanger 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

**29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: **

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

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"For this is what the Lord has commanded us: 'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth'" (Acts 13:47)

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."  Matthew 10:5-9

In this verse Jesus' command seems to clearly conflict with Paul's statement. However, a deeper study will show that it is really misinterpreted. Let's look at the word 'Gentile', which is translated from the Greek word -- 'Ethos'. 'Ethos' means -- 'a tribe', 'nation', 'people group'. It is further defined as a -- 'race', 'nation'. It also means -- "in the OT, foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles. Also, "Paul uses the term for Gentile Christians". So what did Paul mean?

Using the word 'gentile' is really used in context from the individual's view point. To a Greek, all non-Greeks are 'gentiles' ('ethnos'), even if they were Israelites or Jews living in Greece. To an Israelite, all non-Israelites were 'gentiles' ('ethnos'), even if they were Romans or Jews or Greeks living in Judaea. To a Jew, all non-Jews around the world are 'gentiles' ('goy'). To Israelites like Paul and Jesus Christ, non-Israelites like Caiaphas were 'gentiles' ('ethnos'), but to Jews like Caiaphas, Paul and Jesus Christ were 'gentiles' ('goy'). The word "nation" can refer to a group of people of the same race in the same country, or in a different country, or to someone of another race in either place.

A 'gentile' comes from the word Latin word --'Gentilis'. It means -- 1). Among Jews, one not a Jew. (2). Among Christians, a heathen or pagan. (3). Among Mormons, one not a Mormon. (4). Of or pertaining to a gens, tribe, or people. (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary, Volume 1), [which excludes the most important example: 5) Among Israelites, a non-Israelite]. If you will consult a good dictionary, you will find that the word 'gentile' is properly understood means 'non-something'.

So, Paul being a Roman citizen, did he mean 'non-Roman' citizen or did Paul being an Israelite mean 'non-Israelite? Paul undoubtedly spoke Greek and preached to Greek speakers, so did he mean 'gentile' ('ethnos') to mean 'non-Greek'?

My point is the word 'gentile' is used from the context of the speaker. Despite Paul's meaning of 'gentile' in Romans 3:29, it cannot undermine the command of Jesus, as given in Matthew 10:5-9 above or in the similar verses like the following:

"I'm not sent, but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." -- Matt 15:24.

"For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep (Israelites), and seek them out."  Ezekiel 34:11

"To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of Sons (Galatians 4:5). From Romans 9:4-5, it reads, "the adoption pertains to Israel... and for their flesh Christ came." The word -- 'Sons' is translated from the Greek word -- 'yhiothesia', which means-- "that relationship which God was pleased to establish between himself and the Israelites in preference to all other nations".

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– ParkingLotRanger 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Rev 7:9 After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands

Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"Moreover, the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth; and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone, which you or your fathers have not known." --Deuteronomy 28:64

"You, however, I will scatter among the nations and will draw out a sword after you, as your land becomes desolate and your cities become waste." --Leviticus 26:33

Therefore say, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Though I had removed them far away among the nations and though I had scattered them among the countries, yet I was a sanctuary for them a little while in the countries where they had gone.”’ --Ezekiel 11:16

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:” --John 10:27

"I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd." --John 10:16

There are sons of Jacob in every nation. Again, it is important to understand what Gentile means.Basically it is a -- 'non-something'. You provided Act 10:45. This will make my point. Let's look at it. In the first half of Acts 10, Cornelius and Peter both saw visions given by God. In his vision, Cornelius, a Roman centurion and a devout Gentile, was ordered to send for Peter. Did you catch this? Cornelius is a "devout Gentile" (non-something). He is a "Roman centurion". So, is Cornelius a non-Judean? That is, not from the Roman 'province' of Judea? Yes. Is he a non-Israelite? Many Romans were descendants of Israelites too. DNA results indicate mitochondrial lineage to the Levant. Herodotus wrote the Etruscans emigrated from Lydia, a region on the eastern coast of ancient Turkey. A place that evidence shows Israelites inhabited.

In Acts, just as Peter was trying to understand the meaning of this troublesome vision, the men sent by Cornelius arrived. Then the Spirit said to Peter, “Behold, three men seek you. But arise, go down, and go with them, doubting nothing; for I have sent them” (10:19-20). Peter went with the men to Joppa, where he met Cornelius. He said, “You yourselves know how it is an unlawful thing for a man who is a Jew to join himself or come to one of another nation, but God has shown me that I shouldn’t call any man unholy or unclean” (10:28).

Peter went with the men to Joppa, where he met Cornelius. He said, “You yourselves know how it is an unlawful thing for a man a Judean to join himself or come to one of another nation (tribe), but God has shown me that I shouldn’t call any man unholy or unclean” (10:28). This tells us the word 'gentile' is referring to Israelites of "another nation (tribe)". In other words, 'gentile' refers to an Israelite, who isn't recognized as a fellow Israelite and is therefore thought to be unclean.

In Acts 10:45 the gentiles are fellow Israelites of another 'nation' (tribe), but under law were not recognized.

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– winn 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because they want fighting between the races, and their guys are the racist black hebrew israelites. Are we ginning up the opposition? lol

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– yoohoo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Rev. 7:9

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

Where's the "Whites Only" crowd then?

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Letter to Tiberius Caesar from Pontius Pilate:

" A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day, I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told that his name was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to His appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about thirty years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His hearers with their black beards and tawny complexions."

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– yoohoo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Why would Judas have to identify Jesus with a kiss? Wouldn't Jesus have already stood out from the crowd with his golden hair?

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The insinuation here when you mention the brain capacities is that the Israelites are smart and intelligent because they have bigger brains, whilst the Edomites are dumb and subhuman because they have smaller brains.

L'Aryen et son rôle social.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

During Jesus time, the Levant consisted of a very mixed population to which Scripture itself tells us. Even the Assyrians had many people with golden hair. Look at Syria even today the same is somewhat true. Even Alexander the Great had hair described as golden color. At the time of Jesus, it was the Greek language that was the international language spoken. This is precisely why the Pentateuch and the other Books of the Old Testament were translated into Koine Greek in c. 285 B.C.. The Hebrew written language was already dying and indeed was lost in antiquity. It was the Greek Ptolemy Philadelphus, who purchased the freedom of Israelite scholars to translate the Scripture into Koine Greek in Alexandria, Egypt in 285 B.C. Ptolemy saved the day.

If you look at a map, the Levant is the cross road of 3 continents for international trade and has always been a coveted region. Perhaps, the most coveted region in all of history. This lends credence to the reason why there is upheaval in the region to this very day. Even the depictions made from antiquity through out the region show the racial types. The celebrated tombs of Ben-Hassan (c. 2200 B.C.) and from the Egyptian monuments we know with certainty there were different races of mankind in existence in the region. On ancient plates on a folio scale, we have portraits of specimens of each type of race with sufficient accuracy to show that four races were very distinct including the white Israelite race. Then we have abundant archaeological evidence of ancient Israelite and their remains. Forensically, cranial shape and size does not change racially. The Israelite skulls were dolichocephalic (long-headed) with avg. cranial capacity of 1416cc. This is identical to modern northern Europeans. Modern day Jews are brachycephalic (round-headed) with a much smaller avg. cranial capacity of 1266cc. This fits the Edomite cranial characteristic, to which we know Herod was an Edomite. The mixed population during Jesus time consisted of a large Edomite population in Jerusalem. The Greeks referred to the region as 'Idumea', which means land of the Edomites. Then we have from two Jewish sources, "The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia", (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1966), pg. 594, and the "The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia" (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) p. 589, which states the following -- “The Edomites were conquered by John Hyrcanus (134 B.C.) who forcibly converted them to Judaism, and from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants”. How does an Edomite rise to the level of a king if not reflecting the population's majority ethnicity? The Israelites were a small minority community centered around the Sea of Galilee.

Judas' kiss was not only prophesied, but was signal of betrayal in a mixed society.

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– HelpDonny 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I can’t take that guy’s voice. Thanks for the share though :)

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