There is one point to that comment. Because it is something that is easily googled the way to answer it is with math, comparing the numbers of existing windmills and bird deaths to how many windows and bird deaths caused by them there are. Also, what kind of birds are more likely to die by windmills compared to what kind of birds are killed by windows. If you just call the commenter stupid that makes it easy for that commenter, and everybody who agrees with the comment, to just dismiss what you are saying without thinking about it. If you dig out the verifiable numbers, less easy to do that.
And when you are talking about normies you usually never can change their minds just by one comment, least of all by just calling them stupid which usually only hardens their resistance (and that is just the normal human trait). The only way to change a mind is usually by the method you could compare to the idea of the Chinese water torture: drip, drip, drip, drip... they may not think about what you are advocating after one time, nor after two or three or a few years either, but if it seems you can give them facts that may lodge in their subconscious and then there very well may be a preference cascade after some future point.
At which time they will probably think they figured it out all by themselves, but who cares as long as they will change their mind.
We do want to change minds, right? Not just piss off people who don't think like we do?
Well I'm glad to see someone is interested in the spirit of discussion.
My comment was about the disruption of the food chain. 33k bird deaths do not come close to having the effect described. If the number of windmills were scaled up (not to match the number of windows, that would be silly), I still don't see it coming close to having a disruptive effect.
You are right that it's not a simple 1:1 comparison, as the types of birds, locations, concentrations, etc will vary, but the staggering difference in numbers really does make one consider whether the number is even worth considering. All that to say, I haven't been convinced of windmills bringing about doomsday.
It was a fun thought experiment, but windmills kill 33,000 birds per year. Windows? 97 to 976 million.
https://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/
There is one point to that comment. Because it is something that is easily googled the way to answer it is with math, comparing the numbers of existing windmills and bird deaths to how many windows and bird deaths caused by them there are. Also, what kind of birds are more likely to die by windmills compared to what kind of birds are killed by windows. If you just call the commenter stupid that makes it easy for that commenter, and everybody who agrees with the comment, to just dismiss what you are saying without thinking about it. If you dig out the verifiable numbers, less easy to do that.
And when you are talking about normies you usually never can change their minds just by one comment, least of all by just calling them stupid which usually only hardens their resistance (and that is just the normal human trait). The only way to change a mind is usually by the method you could compare to the idea of the Chinese water torture: drip, drip, drip, drip... they may not think about what you are advocating after one time, nor after two or three or a few years either, but if it seems you can give them facts that may lodge in their subconscious and then there very well may be a preference cascade after some future point.
At which time they will probably think they figured it out all by themselves, but who cares as long as they will change their mind.
We do want to change minds, right? Not just piss off people who don't think like we do?
Well I'm glad to see someone is interested in the spirit of discussion.
My comment was about the disruption of the food chain. 33k bird deaths do not come close to having the effect described. If the number of windmills were scaled up (not to match the number of windows, that would be silly), I still don't see it coming close to having a disruptive effect.
You are right that it's not a simple 1:1 comparison, as the types of birds, locations, concentrations, etc will vary, but the staggering difference in numbers really does make one consider whether the number is even worth considering. All that to say, I haven't been convinced of windmills bringing about doomsday.