Fren, the prisons the way they are right now have to go for sure. They are just slave factories and strong incentive for judges and the entire legal system to incarcerate innocent people. No doubt about this.
The Bible calls for restitution to victims, banishment, and death depending on the crime. It NEVER calls for incarceration.
I would assume incarceration is a form of banishment, otherwise what will you do with people you want to banish in a world where every country is equally accessible?
What is wrong is for-profit-prisons, not prison system as such. Also once the for-profit part is removed from the equation, and immigration becomes sane and you get rid of society destructors, prisons will only house legit criminals and probably only a fraction of what we have now. Rehabilitation can become an option as well.
Once the society moves to being Godly, a lot of social and pschological factors that leads to addiction and crime will also go away.
I agree with the first part. God's law even calls for 2-3 independent lines of evidence to convict someone. It also calls for anyone making a false accusation to receive the same punishment as the person they were accusing would get if guilty. Talk about perfect justice!
No incarceration is not a form of banishment. Banishment means the expulsion from a city, state, country, or territory. An example would be how the British shipped their criminals to Australia. Incarceration costs a fortune every year. The combined socio-economic costs are even higher. That money comes out of our pockets by threat of force. God calls that theft.
State run prisons are just as bad. They use prisoners (like drug offenders) for labor even striking deals with companies like Foster Farms (Pottery and eggs in AZ) to force convicts to work in horrid conditions for pennies and hour while making a fortune. There is no real rehabilitation in there outside of some basic programs. They are far more interested in you working and not causing trouble. I've seen 18-25 year old kids that got caught with pot or some other light drugs turn into career criminals from the connections and influences they had in there. It just starts a cycle for many.
God's law and the general equity thereof, never calls for incarceration as a punishment. Murder, kidnapping, & rape = execution giving the victims and their families closure while striking fear in the hearts of evil doers. Addiction = idolatry and is a worship problem. That falls on the church. Theft = restitution at 3x the amount which can be paid or worked off. Biblical Theonomy is deep and wise.
Either God, the creator of all things, knows what He's talking about or He doesn't. I know where I stand on that issue. Gob blesses a nation that holds to His laws and standards and curses a nation that departs from them. We've been doing it our way for a long time and it's turned to crap. Let's submit to God and try it His way.
Fren, the prisons the way they are right now have to go for sure. They are just slave factories and strong incentive for judges and the entire legal system to incarcerate innocent people. No doubt about this.
I would assume incarceration is a form of banishment, otherwise what will you do with people you want to banish in a world where every country is equally accessible?
What is wrong is for-profit-prisons, not prison system as such. Also once the for-profit part is removed from the equation, and immigration becomes sane and you get rid of society destructors, prisons will only house legit criminals and probably only a fraction of what we have now. Rehabilitation can become an option as well.
Once the society moves to being Godly, a lot of social and pschological factors that leads to addiction and crime will also go away.
I agree with the first part. God's law even calls for 2-3 independent lines of evidence to convict someone. It also calls for anyone making a false accusation to receive the same punishment as the person they were accusing would get if guilty. Talk about perfect justice!
No incarceration is not a form of banishment. Banishment means the expulsion from a city, state, country, or territory. An example would be how the British shipped their criminals to Australia. Incarceration costs a fortune every year. The combined socio-economic costs are even higher. That money comes out of our pockets by threat of force. God calls that theft.
State run prisons are just as bad. They use prisoners (like drug offenders) for labor even striking deals with companies like Foster Farms (Pottery and eggs in AZ) to force convicts to work in horrid conditions for pennies and hour while making a fortune. There is no real rehabilitation in there outside of some basic programs. They are far more interested in you working and not causing trouble. I've seen 18-25 year old kids that got caught with pot or some other light drugs turn into career criminals from the connections and influences they had in there. It just starts a cycle for many.
God's law and the general equity thereof, never calls for incarceration as a punishment. Murder, kidnapping, & rape = execution giving the victims and their families closure while striking fear in the hearts of evil doers. Addiction = idolatry and is a worship problem. That falls on the church. Theft = restitution at 3x the amount which can be paid or worked off. Biblical Theonomy is deep and wise.
Either God, the creator of all things, knows what He's talking about or He doesn't. I know where I stand on that issue. Gob blesses a nation that holds to His laws and standards and curses a nation that departs from them. We've been doing it our way for a long time and it's turned to crap. Let's submit to God and try it His way.
I guess we have to wait for Elon to reach Mars to be able to banish people.
There's lots of islands, underground DUMBS, and wastelands we can dump em in.