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Electric Cars are not ready to replace gas-powered cars. (img.patriotpost.us)
posted 4 years ago by BerlinWallCrosser 4 years ago by BerlinWallCrosser +272 / -0
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– Darwyn 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe in an attempt not to over explain I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about an electric car that has a SMALL motor(less than 50 hp maybe even only 10-20 hp) that can trickle charge the batteries or just add to the power being used.

There is a lot of inefficiency in cars because they need a wide power band to deal with various problems like hills and starting from a dead stop. If you have a generator that runs at the most efficient RPMs with no clutch etc it solves a lot of problems and removes a lot of weight. Its not just as simple as motion to electricity to motion. Although I admit that part of it is less than ideal.

What I'm saying is if the goal is an electric car... as flawed as they are... then a setup of large battery with a small motor and modest fuel supply is best to achieve endurance and usability. Especially given that in most places gas is easy to find but a charging port isn't.

My personal preference is hydrogen fuel cell cars. By weight and volume liquid hydrogen has more energy than anything else and its actually quit easy to make. There are storage and handling issues but still we should be putting all our efforts into improving that technology not toying around with gas engines. Electric cars run on batteries should only be a jumping off point to ditch the batteries for a fuel cell IMHO.

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– Die_Commie_Scum 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I see what you mean. To use them as backup. But you will still no matter what always have some loss no matter what with every step you take away from the origional power source. Hybrid cars to me seem like the best option for pure efficiency. Using some electric and some gas allows for regenerative braking or I've heard some places are even toying with electronic generating suspension. There is a similar problem with hydrogen as with EV tho. In order to make hydrogen out of water. You need to run an electric current thru it. The problem here lies in that you need more electricity power to split the H2O than you will get energy from burning it. That's why when you try to make the perpetual motion machine where you burn hydrogen to power the generator to make the electricity to split the water and try to run the loop, it doesn't work for long. Eventually it sputters itself out. Crazy enough the most efficient way to make hydrogen comes from oil. It's a by product of making things like acetylene although I'm not sure how it works

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– Darwyn 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, but the question becomes what wastes more energy... running that electricity through a power line that heats up or moving hydrogen through a pipe or via a truck.

Also from a standpoint of storing energy long term hydrogen has them all beat by so much its not even funny. Plus its crazy clean overall. And all this can be improved on. Which was my point... why aren't they working on improving that tech? You know what I think... I think they already have and they don't want us to have access to it because they know it will mean we can use nuclear power to make hydrogen and POOF they lose control. Energy will be cheap. No more wars etc etc.

Its just like medicine. Healthy patients don't pay. Cheap, portable, easily stored energy doesn't get massive profits for big oil. They know batteries are a boondoggle they can launder taxpayer dollars from. Hydrogen would actually solve the problem and not just strip them of their profits/tax money but it would also strip them of their power over us.

Imagine a house run by a fuel cell. You have a big low pressure hydrogen tank in your back yard that holds two or three days worth of power. A backhoe tears up the gas line. Guess what... you still have power. No UPS on your computer. No resetting clocks. Owe and when you need to fuel up your car you have a nozzle in your garage that allows you to just pump hydrogen right into your car.

Your house fuel cell goes tits up. You plug the hydrogen nozzle into your car, plug the house circuit box into the car, and flip a few switches. POOF! The whole house has power, but not as strong as the main cell so maybe you can't run a few things. Call the repair guy. No hurry. Easy simple portable power that's easily stored. Its like freaking Star Trek or something.

The cabal will never let that happen if its within their power to stop it.

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– Die_Commie_Scum 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ya know I never thought about that part on hydrogen. Yea I can imagine that there would be some threshold where you would save energy in transportation if you used pipelines. Unless I suppose you were in close proximity to the power plant. But yea a lot of power is moved over hundreds of miles and a lot of energy is wasted. More than 50% in some cases. I can imagine that a way to pipe it and store it couldn't be all that different than say natural gas, or propane, except you can't pressurize it into liquid form. To me that would probably be the biggest hindrance to making say a hydrogen car. You would need a pretty huge tank to go all that far, whereas using something like propane can be condensed to something small.

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– Darwyn 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, and they made test cars like a decade ago. One was a standard 4 door sedan compact car that pretty much the whole trunk was a large medium pressure tank. It would travel like 200 miles, I think, on one tank.

The last thing I saw a while back was that they were having problems with the fuel cell themselves. They wore out too fast and required a lot of weird chemicals and metal to make which created waste and supply bottlenecks.

So instead we make wasteful batteries out of rare metals? Get it. They either stopped looking for solutions to fuel cell problems or they already found some and buried them in a bottomless pit. Why? Because it would set us free FROM THEM.

Two decades ago hydrogen was all the rage. It was to be the new thing to solve all our problems. Now its a forbidden topic. Hardly anyone talks about it. Why?

One other thing... you could setup solar panels in a desert in the middle of nowhere. Condense water from the air, electrolysis it into hydrogen and oxygen, store the hydrogen, and along comes some rando lost in the middle of nowhere. Guess what... he can top off his car before he keeps driving.

Hydrogen solves like half the problems of wind, solar etc because it gives you a stable way to store that electricity that is scalable to massive shit-tons or just a little bit. If it is a lot you liquefy it. If its not much then you make a huge tank like a propane tank and lightly compress it. Because you can have storage tanks at every level of distribution it doesn't matter that wind and solar are unreliable or intermittent. You just make sure you top off the tanks before you start using it. As long as the supply overall is enough to meet demand no one ever runs out. No brown out bullshit.

And yes using liquid hydrogen directly as fuel would be like a military/industrial thing. Stuff like a train might use that, but for everyday people it would be too dangerous.

Notice that if you have enough solar, wind, and micro hydro of your own you could have a hydrogen generation plant of your own with a few large tanks and POOF you have cut the strings from your masters. If you had satellite internet then you are completely 100% off grid. You even have fuel for your own car/tractor etc.

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