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WSJ: Russia Preparing for Global Conflict With US, West (www.newsmax.com) 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 4 years ago by Kampfer 4 years ago by Kampfer +285 / -0
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– Darwyn 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The fact that both sides lie constantly makes it hard for us to know the truth.

The Ukrainians are clearly still firing SAMs at Russian planes/helo. Thus Russia doesn't control the airspace in any way. Control is not just about jets and runways.

None of this negates my original theory. The Ukrainians didn't have half the training US Army does. They also have VERY different equipment and strategy. Yes, Russia is winning the proxy fight but they shouldn't just be winning. It should be a total route with very few casualties. Instead the ATGMs MANPADs etc are proving very effective at creating casualties. US Army would also be using MLRS, 155mm, and other stuff that the Ukrainians lost in the first week through the whole fight. Throw is some F-22s and Russia just doesn't stand a chance. To think otherwise is foolish.

The only difference is Russia is good enough that it would create casualties on our side not seen sense Vietnam. They would still lose.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You are just assuming that both sides lie. Ukraine has been shown to be lying. There is no evidence that the Russians are lying, only a disparity between their numbers and Ukraine's numbers. To say that Western observers support the Ukraine numbers is only to say that the West, who created the Ukraine corruption swamp, has a vested interest in sticking to the narrative that they are helping to create.

In any case, the Russian casualties at last note were ~5,000 (~1,500 dead), while their count for Ukrainians, whose bodies they are collecting and counting in the field, is more on the order of ~20,000 (~10,000 dead). Essentially all the Ukrainian armor and aircraft are destroyed. Their ammo dumps and fuel depots are destroyed, so they are out of fires and mobility. The West throws in weapons and the Russians collect them as trophies off the field, unfired, abandoned by fleeing Ukrainians, and being remanded to the Donetsk forces for their armament. The Russians have no problem using their UAVs, Su-25s, and attack helicopters (beyond the reach of any Ukraine aircraft operating from western Ukraine). Currently, Russia has encircled ~60,000 Ukrainian troops in a "cauldron" where they will be attritted by artillery or desertions---until they surrender or are finally destroyed.

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