Until after the mid terms. If the 2020 election was overturned and Trump reinstated it wouldn’t be a week until the D party had impeached Trump and kicked him out of office. The mid terms have to be won for anything to happen.
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What I meant was, appear to save the day. Trump can't be "a savior" to the populace. I'm not talking about what's happening behind the scenes.
We must stand up for ourselves. It is an essential step.
I don't think you appreciate what has to happen.
"America" is a fraud. Government (as we conceive of it right now) is a fraud. The entire concept that we have of government is designed to keep us from understanding Reality, who we are, and our place within it.
Government is a social contract. We individually agree to not infringe on each other's Rights. If we do infringe directly on each others Rights we agree to be held accountable to the larger society. In exchange for that agreement, we receive the same courtesy in return. We do NOT HAVE TO agree to the Social Contract. In such a case a person would not be a member of Society, and that's OK. They would instead be subject to Natural Law (which is a whole other can of worms). Regardless, all of our Inalienable Rights are appreciated by that Social Contract.
That is all the government we need. Every other part of government is a fraud designed to infringe on the Rights of the individual. If we need "infrastructure," we can come together and build it. If we need "common defense," we can come together and defend our homes. We do NOT need a government to cover those tasks. All Fuckery extends from the lie that we need some "organization" to do those things. It's completely unnecessary.
There is NO SUCH THING as a "greater good." The entire concept is a fraud. Thus, we don't need any organization that works for it.
I agree with you entirely on this:
I'm an abolitionist. As I've said in many of my posts and comments, I fully agree with Thoreau's comment in Civil Disobedience that "That government is best, which governs not at all." Abolishing forcible government is the only way to have a civil society; anything less is tyranny and will, without fail, degrade into deeper tyranny as time goes on.
I often recommend The Market for Liberty as a good place to start, for people interested in the idea of abolitionism (or voluntaryism, or whatever you want to call it). You clearly don't need that book (although you might enjoy it -- or have already read it).
Where we differ is how to get there. Throughout history, I see little support for the idea that complete destruction of a society leads to greater liberty. It can certainly lead to smaller government but not to a civil society. There have been free societies (on Greenland for several centuries, for instance) and in some but not all America Indian tribes -- the Colonists got interested in something approaching real Liberty after interacting with Indians in the New World; see The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity by Graeber and Wengrow for more.
I see a difference between being at the precipice and going over the precipice. Being AT the precipice will wake people up, frighten them, give them motivation and courage to dismantle much of the tyranny and hunt down and insist on bringing justice to the corrupt. It will change thought and behavior patterns, and in the process -- and over time (a few years? longer?) society here will become more real. But as you've surely noticed, almost everyone here -- HERE, at the Great Awakening! -- believes we need the Constitution and most of the corruption (federal agencies and various encroachments on liberty) that have grown from it.
If we can remove most of the corrupt influence of the Cabal (that will be trying to move us back into MORE tyranny), and if The People (including but not limited to the high-influence White Hats) can keep the pressure on to eliminate sources of coercive Power (Lord of the Rings is SUCH an amazing gift to humanity) and replace them with contracts where necessary and with healthy culture and proper child-rearing in the main, then I believe we can have a truly healthy society where initiated coercion is simply not tolerated, while defensive use of force is understood to be necessary sometimes and must therefore be ready to deploy when required.
Going OVER the precipice (the fall of the Soviet Union, the Weimar Republic's swift and dramatic end, etc) hasn't, in the past, created the liberty I'm hoping for.
A completely wrecked society isn't going to become a paradise of liberty and brotherhood, and if that's actually the Plan then I think we're in for a rude awakening. But we're well into the process of waking people up to the NEED for less corruption and coercion and I'm thinking that enough people are already sufficiently awake to support the next phase. Bring on Durham, bring on the Tribunals, bring on the EO-supported confiscations of wealth and of power centers -- bring it on NOW, or very soon, before everything positive in Western Civilization has been burned to the ground. Then we can move, at whatever speed works well, towards a culture and a society of liberty.
I guess it sounded like I was attempting to push us over the precipice. I didn't mean to say that. I agree that it will take time to go from where we are now, to recognizing, as a species, the inevitable appreciation of our sovereignty. Especially after God alone knows how long that understanding has been suppressed.
Once the first veil is revealed to the masses however, the debate process will begin in earnest on a population level. In the examples you gave, those populations were controlled to the most minute detail by exactly the same oppressors that hold this understanding in obfuscation today. There was no chance at an Awakening at the time for those people. This will be a planet wide reveal of The Matrix. From that lifting of the veil, knowledge will pour in so fast it will make... well, it will make your head spin (and everyone else's). It will be a planet wide scene from the Exorcist!
It is only a lack of understanding that gives the PTB the ability to commit these social scale frauds. I assert understanding will occur very quickly. We are already building parallel systems to handle a collapse (e.g. Gamestop's NFTs for a new economic system, Truth Social, Musk's Twitter for new free forms of communication).
With new seemingly organic systems already in place (it's very important that it appears organic, even though they are contrived), along with no restrictions on the sharing of knowledge, and no "trust" (AKA programming) that prohibits people from looking in earnest at evidence contrary to prior beliefs, I assert it will not take long to go from nothing to a true Golden Age.
Not to say I think it won't take time, It's not going to happen overnight. Knowledge takes time to process, even if its freely available and heard. But I think it's a matter of few years. I don't think the actual process of dismantling the government and creating a completely new world will take long once the understanding reaches critical mass.
Thanks. I really enjoyed the conversation. I hope the Golden Age we're both envisioning happens in our lifetimes. Even if not, even if we only make progress in that direction, what a time to be alive!