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WaPo: "the AR15 was invented for Nazi infantry" (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by lsdQ 4 years ago by lsdQ +19 / -0
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– cathole953 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

......Well, technically not wrong, but also wrong. I think some moron at the WA Post did a 5 minute google search on the history of the assault rifle and decided this is the truth, when it's not really.

The CONCEPT of the assault rifle was invented by the nazi's (STG44), but in all due reality I'd contest that it was perfected by the Russians with the AK platform, and then we tried to catch up with them using the genius of Eugene Stoner after it was decided that the battle rifle concept (FAL, M14, etc.) was outdated. Which is kind of funny since the Army is now replacing the M4/M16 with what amounts to a modern version of the BAR. Suddenly the FAL seems like a good idea again.

So they ARE wrong, but I think it's because they got actual facts mixed up in their rush and stupidity.

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– SaltyBrit 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It would be correct that Germany first used the term Assault Rifle (Sturmgewehr) but I fail to see how an AR15 in any way can be termed as an Assault Rifle.

It's like comparing a Learjet to an F15

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– cathole953 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is something a lot of people overlook. While I agree an "AR style" rifle does not denote an "assault weapon" in and of itself, the original AR 15/Colt SP1, WAS an assault rifle by design. It was designed for the sole purpose of replacing the M14 as the main infantry rifle of the US Army. That's what I'm referring to here. I'm not agreeing with the moron who wrote this article, I'm pointing out their ignorance and lack of research on the topic.

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– SaltyBrit 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I was using AR 15 in the context of what most people commonly refer to these days as an AR 15.

But I'm always happy to be educated further, so thanks for that.

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– Lapstrake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The CONCEPT of the assault rifle

What do you consider the definition of an assault rifle is and how does it different from other semi-automatic rifles?

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– cathole953 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Well there's a difference between an Assault Rifle and an "Assault Weapon". One is real, the other is a made up buzz term designed to stir up emotions of the willfully ignorant.

An Assault Rifle, by definition, is a fully automatic, medium sized/weight rifle designed to fire an intermediate sized cartridge with moderate accuracy out to 150 yards (In other words, you literally have to be able to hit the broad side of a barn with it at 150 yards). The original AR15/Colt SP1, meets this definition, as it was designed from the get go by Stoner to compete in the Army trials to replace the M14 as the main infantry rifle of the US Army. However this only applies to the OG AR15/Colt SP1. All civilian derivatives are honestly closer to the definition of a DMR.

An "Assault Weapon" doesn't exist. It's a fake term based on cosmetic features that appear "scary" to ignorant sheeple who think that because a gun in more ergonomic it makes it a "weapon of war". Completely ignoring all of the "weapons of war" that are now considered hunting rifles by the common man. EG. M1 Garand, literally any Mauser based bolt action, pretty much every lever action Winchester makes, Trapdoor Springfield Replicas, LITERALLY EVERY MILSURP GUN ever sold on the civilian secondary market, etc.

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– Lapstrake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks fren.

I didn't know there was a distinction between an assault rifle vs an assault weapon.

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– Glooptygloop 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Assault rifle is THEIR term. We should stop even justifying it with use.

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– Hantif 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

By definition an assault rifle is capable of fully automatic fire. AR-15 is semi-automatic.

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– Lapstrake 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is a very important question because it seems like they are gearing up to ban the AR-15 because it is an 'Assault Rifle'.

I'm not a gun person, but my understanding that an assault rifle is different than a hunting rifle because it has military styling. Is that true?

If they get their ban on assault rifles they will soon go after all rifles.

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– SaltyKarens 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I believe an AR has features that hunting rifles do not. Like collapsible stock, short barrel, and vertical front grip.

A full length AR, 30" plus in length, would not be the preferred choice for close corner combat.

In NJ we have laws that allow "other rifles" which are pistols built like an AR rifle. These have shorter barrels and would be better in close range situations.

There is a lot of hype going around for AR rifles. In my opinion a full length is not practical for most situations. The 'other rifles' pack too much punch with the shorter barrel length. Issues with multi shot accuracy plus greater sound and flash. There are better options such as a pistol caliber carbine, AR style rifles in 9mm or 45. 9 will still go through a 2x2 from a quarter mile away. Stopping power is a myth. Plus ammo is way cheaper.

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– Glooptygloop 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The AR has nothing in common with the STG-44 beyond that both are firearms. Full stop.

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– TNBanjoMan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The AR platform was invented by an American gunmaker named Stoner (can't recall his first name). He perfected it and sold the idea to THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.

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– EUssr 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dare I say, based and redpilled?

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

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