Yea, I'm sure they're receiving threats, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about attempts and successes. Why do these never occur?
Sure, Trudeau and Biden and other very highly ranked officials actually have proper security, but you still don't even see attempts on these politicians. And lower ranked officials (even US senators) have little to no security most of the time, and you never see attempts on them, either.
If anything, the fact that there are so many threats just makes me wonder even more why there aren't more attempts. The threats show that people are clearly very upset with the politicians, and the other "terrorist attacks" that occur show very clearly that there are people upset enough to give up their lives and freedom. So why no overlap?
I'm not sure why exactly you're so hung up on Trudeau here.
But that still doesn't answer my question. The people I'm talking about instead chose to shoot up subways, grocery stores, mosques, schools, etc. Did that effect change? So if these people are stupid enough to think through it and realize that shooting up a random building of random people will have no actual effect, why are they somehow rational enough to think assassinating politicians is futile?
I understand that most people aren't homicidal maniacs. But we live in a giant country, so there are absolutely some. And we see that every day. And, sometimes, we'll get a particularly sensational one who commits a newsworthy mass shooting.
But somehow there is never any of these particularly odd maniacs, albeit rare, who go after politicians. You'd think the ratio of premeditated mass killings to assassinations would be lower.
because if you have the skills and are sufficiently organized, you're 0.01% of the population, and 99% of these people work and have a family. That leaves you with 2 people for 40 million citizen, and they're currently out fishing. Also good luck extracting yourself from such an attempt ; that means you're ending your life in jail no matter what.Not very motivating.
You don't need to be skilled or organized to attempt an assassination. In many cases, I'd argue that you don't need to be skilled or organized to pull it off.
And yes, most people care about their lives and freedom enough to not give it up trying such a thing. But there are clearly a ton of people out there who don't. All these shootings, murders, and terrorist attacks are happening by people that usually know they're giving up their lives and freedom by trying it.
Just look: why would the NZ Mosque shooter, who clearly spent a significant amount of time planning (getting those guns into NZ isn't easy) shoot up a random Mosque. Why wouldn't he go after a Muslim politician, for example?
Why would the Buffalo shooter shoot up a random grocery store? He supposedly planned significantly, too. Why wouldn't he go after a black politician, for example?
And the same is true for the opposite side. I was in middle school when Obama was elected. I naively thought that white supremacists were as big of a thing in America as I was taught. I was convinced that he would be assassinated. He wasn't.
It's almost like white supremacy isn't a real threat to Americans and all of these shootings are staged. Or rather, I personally believe that these shootings happened, but then the backstories were filled in after the fact.
Yea, I'm sure they're receiving threats, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about attempts and successes. Why do these never occur?
Sure, Trudeau and Biden and other very highly ranked officials actually have proper security, but you still don't even see attempts on these politicians. And lower ranked officials (even US senators) have little to no security most of the time, and you never see attempts on them, either.
If anything, the fact that there are so many threats just makes me wonder even more why there aren't more attempts. The threats show that people are clearly very upset with the politicians, and the other "terrorist attacks" that occur show very clearly that there are people upset enough to give up their lives and freedom. So why no overlap?
I'm not sure why exactly you're so hung up on Trudeau here.
But that still doesn't answer my question. The people I'm talking about instead chose to shoot up subways, grocery stores, mosques, schools, etc. Did that effect change? So if these people are stupid enough to think through it and realize that shooting up a random building of random people will have no actual effect, why are they somehow rational enough to think assassinating politicians is futile?
I understand that most people aren't homicidal maniacs. But we live in a giant country, so there are absolutely some. And we see that every day. And, sometimes, we'll get a particularly sensational one who commits a newsworthy mass shooting.
But somehow there is never any of these particularly odd maniacs, albeit rare, who go after politicians. You'd think the ratio of premeditated mass killings to assassinations would be lower.
Does the Biden we see actually have secret service protection?
because if you have the skills and are sufficiently organized, you're 0.01% of the population, and 99% of these people work and have a family. That leaves you with 2 people for 40 million citizen, and they're currently out fishing. Also good luck extracting yourself from such an attempt ; that means you're ending your life in jail no matter what.Not very motivating.
I'm not sure you're understanding my point.
You don't need to be skilled or organized to attempt an assassination. In many cases, I'd argue that you don't need to be skilled or organized to pull it off.
And yes, most people care about their lives and freedom enough to not give it up trying such a thing. But there are clearly a ton of people out there who don't. All these shootings, murders, and terrorist attacks are happening by people that usually know they're giving up their lives and freedom by trying it.
Just look: why would the NZ Mosque shooter, who clearly spent a significant amount of time planning (getting those guns into NZ isn't easy) shoot up a random Mosque. Why wouldn't he go after a Muslim politician, for example?
Why would the Buffalo shooter shoot up a random grocery store? He supposedly planned significantly, too. Why wouldn't he go after a black politician, for example?
And the same is true for the opposite side. I was in middle school when Obama was elected. I naively thought that white supremacists were as big of a thing in America as I was taught. I was convinced that he would be assassinated. He wasn't.
It's almost like white supremacy isn't a real threat to Americans and all of these shootings are staged. Or rather, I personally believe that these shootings happened, but then the backstories were filled in after the fact.
political assassinations are extremely rare, and usually organized by the power or some branch of it.
I know. And I'm asking why that is.