So, for many years, despite being totally red pilled on pizza gate and a million other things, I still thought the chemtrails theory was suspect (like flat earth is suspect). I felt that the explanation was reasonable that at certain altitudes, temperatures, and humidity levels, contrails could linger for extended periods of time. But, about 3 months ago, instead of a few lingering contrails here and there, it's ramped up to dozens of them almost every single day. After these days, the evening and overnight winds are insane. We've had insane winds most days for MONTHS. Never experienced anything like it in my life, completely ridiculous to pretend it's a natural weather pattern for the region I live in.
So, coinciding with the dramatically increased and regular "lingering contrails", I thought to myself 'I guess I should look into this chemtrail thing a bit.' So, I watched the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?" and they presented evidence about astronomically high levels of aluminum in the soil in places where they do this spraying, which causes the PH of the soil to come way up, so I decided to test the soil in my own back yard. Predictably, its PH is WAY high at 7.9. At 7 a lot of plants can't survive have trouble.
Anyway, I'm now thoroughly convinced they're spraying something for some reason, and obviously not a good one. So, I've been paying more attention to what days they spray, and if I could spot a pattern. I've logged in to flight trackers to try and figure out which planes, and I've searched on the internet trying to find others who have already spent years trying to spot the patterns of these flights... But I couldn't find much. There are several websites with a LOT of surface information, but apparently no one has simply logged the days, amount of passes across their airspace, the flight numbers and callsigns (or lack thereof) of the aircraft, and compared these datasets to possible explanations. If any of you know of a place where such data is compiled or presented, I'd love to see it.
Now then, I've hit upon one data point in a possible pattern: after months of total sky covering spraying almost every day, there was no spraying at all across the entire Memorial Day weekend. There are plenty of standard passenger flights across this weekend, the sky was full of planes like it is any other day- but no lingering contrails. Not a single one. Do we ever see lingering contrails spreading across the sky on federal holidays? If not, that's quite a damning coincidence. If we could demonstrate a pattern like that, we could easily shut down the "lingering contrail due to common atmospheric conditions" argument- does the weather take federal holidays off?
I will admit up front, I don't have the stomach for hugely extended responses. I find they vitiate the point(s) under discussion.
This comes down to your declaration I am a liar, of which you have no evidence. You make claims that you can't support with anything but allegations. I have a successful 40-year career in engineering that did result in material systems operating. So, I shrug my shoulders at your claim of knowing better; you don't. I have the proofs; you have nothing. I am willing to share and educate, but you are willing only to pronounce and condescend.
So, goodbye. You are not willing to address the points I am trying to make (e.g., the pervasiveness of aluminum soil contamination), and I know when it is useless to continue.
I didn't call you a liar, I said what you've said is a lie. You might be the victim of the lie rather than a perpetrator.
Nah, I can support them just fine, and have. Your claims are what cannot be supported.
Your career is irrelevant. There are 40 year practicing doctors who have administered hundreds of thousands of doses of vaccines, causing untold negative effects for virtually no upside, certain the entire time that they were doing what was best for their patients.
I did not say I know better, I said there are people better credentialed than you who know better. Amazing that no matter what is said you can't respond to it honestly.
You have NO proof. You only have your worthless authority.
You are not willing to share or educate, or that's what you would do. You seem only willing to deride, seeing as that's all you've done.
I have not condescended to you unprovoked, you started it.
You've made no points that I have not addressed, you gaslighting shill. Go test your soil and the air for aluminum. Go fly through the clouds left by the unmarked planes every single day, which show up on no open source flight trackers, and prove they aren't spraying aluminum. Until you do that, your standard of proof for your position is ZERO compared to the standard of proof being brought by the chemtrail alarmists.
I have to prove that something isn't happening? No, that's not where the burden of proof lies. I don't have to prove there are no unicorns. It is on you to prove that there are unicorns. And proof requires evidence, not speculative arguments and unsubstantiated correlations.
Don't worry about credentials. I have them. You don't have them (or you would surely have mentioned them) and you don't even name your sources and their "credentials." You are not in a position to be judicious about sources. Check out patent no. 7,686,253 for evidence that I know my stuff (you get to guess which contributor I was).
I have been providing information---such as the fact that there is aluminum naturally present from all kinds of sources. It's one of the first things you find out by doing a few seconds of research. No evidence that it is coming from any "spraying." No. I don't have to disprove your paranoid fantasy. You have to prove it. And you can't, within the scientific method.
No, you have to prove that the proof presented is false, you dildo. The chemtrail alarmists have already fulfilled their burden of proof.
I name nothing because you are a shill unworthy of earnest discussion. You go find the evidence for yourself, find the best evidence you can that you are wrong, and disprove it, then we can talk on equal footing. Until then, your appeal to your own authority is a joke.
You have provided NOTHING. Your "fact" that aluminum is present naturally in many forms is GASLIGHTING. Yeah, aluminum is everywhere- bound up in more complex molecules. Free aluminum has never been in the rain in the history of the planet, at least in any more than unmeasurably small amounts. Same for the soil. That's something you would find out with a few seconds of research. And notice, AGAIN, that you simply CAN NOT answer to what I actually said, you MUST make up something I DIDN'T say to argue against.
The evidence it comes from spraying comes from atmospheric sampling by aircraft flying through the supposed chemtrails themselves.
My paranoid fantasy is already proven, with the scientific method, it is up to you to demonstrate that the proof is flawed. And simply saying so repeatedly is laughably insufficient. You are a complete LOSER for arguing with me with such dishonesty instead of going and confronting the proof for yourself. You do your credentials enormous insult by acting this way.
What proof? All you do is assert. You provide no details. When you allude to any specifics (aluminum in soil) you demonstrate ignorance of the fact that the specific is a commonplace. There is no "free aluminum." The nature of its chemistry is that it will immediately oxidize on exposure to air or water. (Put naked aluminum in water and it will react exothermically.) Plenty of alumninosilicate compounds, however.
What aircraft sampling? What you are claiming would be against air safety requirements. How about flight plans and aircraft tail numbers? Or would that be too incriminating? (Getting that close to another airplane is an inherently dangerous maneuver...said the expert that worked on the KC-46 tanker.) And how would you know you are sampling a spray and not engine exhaust? How would you know there was even a spray? I've seen the hoax photos of a "chemtrail-equipped airliner," which was really a developmental model equipped with a water ballast management system for center-of-gravity location studies. You see, I worked in this industry. There is nothing like that going on.
All this talk and you still haven't explained why (or if) there is a visual difference between contrails and "chemtrails." Reference to persistence is useless, in that contrails can persist not at all or can extend from horizon to horizon for a long time, slowly diffusing. I've seen them. Prove I haven't.
There are legitimate and open cloud-seeding programs in states like California, Nevada, and Colorado. The seeding areas are delimited and the program schedules are available. The aircraft are not airliners. I assume you are not talking about this non-secret activity. There are also emergency situations where civil or military aircraft must dump fuel for safety purposes prior to an emergency landing. I assume you are not talking about these events either (are you aware of them?). And, of course, there is extinguishant dumping in the fighting of forest fires. I assume you are not talking about that.
And, most interesting to me, you are not talking about the visibly evident and copious chemtrails inherent in launch vehicles using large solid boosters. Plenty of aluminum oxide and hydrochloric acid produced by these boosters...but you don't concern yourself. I wonder why. Could it be that such a cause would not further your paranoid fantasy? But why not? It is all government-supported. NASA has a big hand in it. It should ring the right bells. Nope. The real chemtrails are not for you.