After seeing how the media lied to us over the last two decades (the lies and deception went on far longer, but I was only red-pilled after 9/11), I wonder how much of what we were told about Tiananmen Square 1989 were true.
I worked with two people who were university students in Beijing during the 1989 protest, both told me that they cleared peacefully, and that the killings took place on the perimeters of the city. Neither recalled actual bloodshed in Tiananmen Square. A Taiwanese singer who was with three other prominent democracy movement leaders in Beijing also said, during interviews with reporters (Chinese and Western) that they were amongst the last ones to clear the square and he did not witness any killings.
That being said, I have also heard of first hand accounts from former PLA officers that they were given live ammunition and ordered to use "any means necessary". Some regiments did not follow orders to use force while some did.
I don't think we will ever know the truth, unless we were there when things were happening. I don't believe in the media's narrative on Tiananmen Square anymore. There are lots of censored materials about Tiananmen that we can dig up, including one British journalist who was shown an article he supposedly wrote and published about the massacre, to which he replied that he has absolutely no recollections of ever having written the article. June 4th was such a big event then, like 9/11, there is no way he didn't remember anything about it if he took part.
everyone should realize that China has paid individuals posting in this forums posts that's purpose is to paint their leader as a fighter against the deep state. When reading any posts online be aware there are individuals that post only to misinform.
We really can't tell what's going on for sure. suggest always be wary and always ask if is opinions or fact. if it is the presentation of a fact then ask if the fact can be verified. Reading any internet post where you don't know the source posting should always be done with caution.
The real question maybe is how any kind of revolt that habbened that day akchually was a sort of early "color revolution" as in *fomented by Alphabet Soups' ".
My guess is that Tiananmen Square was a power play within the Chines communist party. The origins of the protest being controlled by agents within the intelligence services of would not surprise me. I am also guessing that foreign agents from other countries' intelligence agencies were trying to influence those protesting. Most revolutionary groups around the world are infiltrated and controlled by foreign and national intelligence agencies
Tiananmen Square coverage completely dominated coverage of a major USSR train accident killing hundreds, mostly children. The cause of which was never fully determined.
Clowns have hated Russia for quite some time. USSR went through 4-5 different leader assassinations during this stretch of years.
The protesters were the sons of Communist Party members. These Princes-in-Waiting saw how old they'd have to be when they finally inherited supreme power, so they were impatient. They preached democracy only as a rebellion against their hardline fathers.
Such spoiled brats wouldn't settle for being the first group to be allowed to protest in 40 years. They flagrantly ignored the limit the government had set on their demonstrations, making it seem like they would escalate into overthrowing their Daddies' regime.
Two Army divisions refused orders to put down the tantrum. The third, a peasant division, jumped at the chance to get even with the elitist city-slickers.
Seriously? I swear it wasn't nearly that long ago, then again, I was just at a car show and a car like my ex-wife owned was there and it's already 30 years old. How the hell did that happen?
After seeing how the media lied to us over the last two decades (the lies and deception went on far longer, but I was only red-pilled after 9/11), I wonder how much of what we were told about Tiananmen Square 1989 were true.
I worked with two people who were university students in Beijing during the 1989 protest, both told me that they cleared peacefully, and that the killings took place on the perimeters of the city. Neither recalled actual bloodshed in Tiananmen Square. A Taiwanese singer who was with three other prominent democracy movement leaders in Beijing also said, during interviews with reporters (Chinese and Western) that they were amongst the last ones to clear the square and he did not witness any killings.
That being said, I have also heard of first hand accounts from former PLA officers that they were given live ammunition and ordered to use "any means necessary". Some regiments did not follow orders to use force while some did.
I don't think we will ever know the truth, unless we were there when things were happening. I don't believe in the media's narrative on Tiananmen Square anymore. There are lots of censored materials about Tiananmen that we can dig up, including one British journalist who was shown an article he supposedly wrote and published about the massacre, to which he replied that he has absolutely no recollections of ever having written the article. June 4th was such a big event then, like 9/11, there is no way he didn't remember anything about it if he took part.
Lmao you’re defending communist China? Not every single thing is a conspiracy you fucking retard
When so much shit in history is a psyop...
everyone should realize that China has paid individuals posting in this forums posts that's purpose is to paint their leader as a fighter against the deep state. When reading any posts online be aware there are individuals that post only to misinform.
how can we ever tell the difference then
We really can't tell what's going on for sure. suggest always be wary and always ask if is opinions or fact. if it is the presentation of a fact then ask if the fact can be verified. Reading any internet post where you don't know the source posting should always be done with caution.
Russia too!
The real question maybe is how any kind of revolt that habbened that day akchually was a sort of early "color revolution" as in *fomented by Alphabet Soups' ".
My guess is that Tiananmen Square was a power play within the Chines communist party. The origins of the protest being controlled by agents within the intelligence services of would not surprise me. I am also guessing that foreign agents from other countries' intelligence agencies were trying to influence those protesting. Most revolutionary groups around the world are infiltrated and controlled by foreign and national intelligence agencies
Here's a Did You Know? History nugget for you:
Tiananmen Square coverage completely dominated coverage of a major USSR train accident killing hundreds, mostly children. The cause of which was never fully determined.
Clowns have hated Russia for quite some time. USSR went through 4-5 different leader assassinations during this stretch of years.
Freedom for the Oedipus Complex
The protesters were the sons of Communist Party members. These Princes-in-Waiting saw how old they'd have to be when they finally inherited supreme power, so they were impatient. They preached democracy only as a rebellion against their hardline fathers.
Such spoiled brats wouldn't settle for being the first group to be allowed to protest in 40 years. They flagrantly ignored the limit the government had set on their demonstrations, making it seem like they would escalate into overthrowing their Daddies' regime.
Two Army divisions refused orders to put down the tantrum. The third, a peasant division, jumped at the chance to get even with the elitist city-slickers.
I wonder what the turnout of that event would’ve been if the people took up arms
A very sad event. Pray for the Chinese who are enslaved, i.e, all Chinese. God Bless the people who suffer.
Seriously? I swear it wasn't nearly that long ago, then again, I was just at a car show and a car like my ex-wife owned was there and it's already 30 years old. How the hell did that happen?
CIA was likely involved
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/380944582
This made me feel really OLD!!!