I don't want to be that guy but I guess I have to.
It's the blood alcohol limits and the clear money grabbing scheme that's the issue. .08 is very easy to fail honestly. I'm okay with 0.0, 0 tolerance. Everyone thinks they're fine after a few beers. If it were zero tolerance I think that would dissuade much more.
I'd much prefer harsher penalties with regards to losing the license than putting people in debt.
Also I think they need to bring back the work license which allows you to go to work and back. If you mess up while driving on that, I'm okay with a ten year ban on having a driver's license.
CDL holders have to abide by 0 tolerance, so not really sure why everyone else can drive buzzed. Maybe, allow a slight amount for everyone to account only for mouthwash or anything like that which doesn't actually impair.
Well the thing there is, MADD has always been about prohibition, not preventing DUI. They got it down to .08 which most people can drive fine. .04 is next. Then .00.
So I can't agree with this as 2 beers with dinner should not get a DUI unless you are such a lightweight you crash anyway and that's when they can give you a DUI even though you weren't over the limit (.12 was at least legit IMO).
That is also enough to cause a measurable delay in reaction time for most people. I don't care if you are (or think you are) one of the few who can have a higher amount of BAC and still react the same. The law has to be applied equally. That means a single standard for everyone.
Work license applies in PA from what my friend told me. Her friend got a DUI and had a work license because there are so few public transport options in many areas.
But apparently the first no th you have regular breathalyzer tests show up at your house via cop, at any time and you have to be 100% sober or you get one installed in your car (which I'd prefer because drinking and NOT driving is 0 risk to other drivers.
I don't want to be that guy but I guess I have to.
It's the blood alcohol limits and the clear money grabbing scheme that's the issue. .08 is very easy to fail honestly. I'm okay with 0.0, 0 tolerance. Everyone thinks they're fine after a few beers. If it were zero tolerance I think that would dissuade much more.
I'd much prefer harsher penalties with regards to losing the license than putting people in debt.
Also I think they need to bring back the work license which allows you to go to work and back. If you mess up while driving on that, I'm okay with a ten year ban on having a driver's license.
CDL holders have to abide by 0 tolerance, so not really sure why everyone else can drive buzzed. Maybe, allow a slight amount for everyone to account only for mouthwash or anything like that which doesn't actually impair.
CDL drivers can flatten normal drivers and not even notice it happened, slight difference there.
Pretty sure they notice. Also, not all CDL drivers are in semis.
Why would any level of impairment be ok? Do you need a drink that bad that you can't wait until you get home or get a ride?
You're an idiot and I'm done with the stupid back and forth.
Edit: Oh you're the same idiot from below. Figures. Well, username checks out at least. Right back at you, pal.
Agreed
Well the thing there is, MADD has always been about prohibition, not preventing DUI. They got it down to .08 which most people can drive fine. .04 is next. Then .00.
So I can't agree with this as 2 beers with dinner should not get a DUI unless you are such a lightweight you crash anyway and that's when they can give you a DUI even though you weren't over the limit (.12 was at least legit IMO).
That is also enough to cause a measurable delay in reaction time for most people. I don't care if you are (or think you are) one of the few who can have a higher amount of BAC and still react the same. The law has to be applied equally. That means a single standard for everyone.
Yes, and that standard should be 0.0.
Or did you not read anything I said
Work license applies in PA from what my friend told me. Her friend got a DUI and had a work license because there are so few public transport options in many areas.
But apparently the first no th you have regular breathalyzer tests show up at your house via cop, at any time and you have to be 100% sober or you get one installed in your car (which I'd prefer because drinking and NOT driving is 0 risk to other drivers.