Let’s hear your knowledge on how to get around vaccinations.
My worry: We are having our third child. This is the first time we are denying all vaccinations. After birth a newborn is scheduled to get Vit. K and Hep B. I do not want the Hep B given to my child. I can understand the Vit. K.
This was brought up to the OB the other day at the 20 week anatomy scan. She basically said good luck finding a Ped. that will see us and that the in house Peds. at the hospital are all pro vaccination. Both of my other children saw only in house doctors while still in the hospital after delivery. She also said if we don’t have a Pediatrition listed that honors no vaccinations at the time of discharge it will be difficult to release us! She sugar coated it by saying they just can’t send a fresh new baby out into the world knowing they won’t be getting proper medical treatment. This blew our minds and really fired us up.
My other two children have received some vaccinations but will not be continuing. We currently do not have a doctor that honors this. We are never sick so it’s not like we really need one, but where does that leave us with the listing the doctor part at the hospital and what if a time arises where we do need to see a doctor?
With the first two we went regularly to the “Well Visits” because that’s what you do in this clown world. Now we are awake enough to see they are only scheduled alongside vaccination schedules. Being our third we don’t have the new parent fears like before and really see the “well visits” as a bunch of crap and know on our own what a healthy and thriving baby looks like.
The only reason delivery is occurring in a hospital is because the mother has had past blood pressure issues and would typically be one of those “historical” women who die in childbirth.
All we want to do is have this baby and get the heck out of there. We are homeschooled so there is no further worry about having to be exempt. There’s just the worry about being denied medical help if a situation does arise. We are now very holistic and heal on our own. It’s just a new ballgame with adding a newborn into the mix.
A lot may change in the next weeks before this baby is born, but we’ve been at this a long time now and there’s always the chance things can get even worse.
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What do we need to come prepared with stating we do not want vaccines administered while at the hospital after delivery?
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Have you found a doctor that sees your family and honors your stance on vaccinations? If not, will a general practitioner have to see you if you present them with a religious exemption?
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If you’ve delivered recently, do they test you for covid?
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If we can’t find a doctor that honors our stance on vaccinations what do we list at the time of delivery for the baby’s pediatrician?
In my day, hardly anyone went to a hospital to give birth. If the woman is healthy then the risk of complications is tiny - especially if it's not her first birth. Get a private midwife.
Agreed! Get a midwife-they’re professional af
What about home birth with a midwife? People did that for centuries.
Then you don't have to deal with leftist doctors hovering around with needles. Easier to avoid the initial shots that way anyways.
Get vit k drops. Do not back down. They just try and scare you . Kids Dr is an hour away but they are out there .You need to really talk to my wife she has all of your answers.
I did vit K drops with my youngest two kids because I found out the shit has a black box warning--they never tell you these things. It is very dangerous shot itself as are the other childhood shots.
Thank you, I will be looking into this one more then!
MY BODY, MY CHOICE. Yell that at any doctor who states your child needs a vaxx. You, as a parent have complete control of your baby's health care, not the doctor. You tell the hospital that you only authorize them to deliver your baby, NOTHING ELSE. If they vaxx your child for the sniffles tell them NO and then sue the pants off of everybody in that hospital administration. Be very forceful with your request and explain to them in no uncertain terms that they do YOUR bidding. If they come back at you saying your insurance demands the baby gets vaxxed, then tell the hospital to get it in writing with the signature of the insurance company CEO and all executive officers. That should take the better part of a week or two, long after you have exited the hospital. Do not lay down and take what they are telling you. You are in charge and tell them how it's going to go down.
This is exactly how I feel right about now. Good to hear these “crazy” words from someone else. We truly are the stonger people living in this world right now. Thank you for your fight, soldier!
Honestly I wouldn't use those words. Insist on your rights, but doctors and social workers could see those words as a challenge, and your child might get injured through their arrogance. They don't respect you. But you can always leave against medical advice.
The biggest worry is if the OB will tip off a social worker. If CPS is waiting and aware of this, it could be a bad situation. I don't want to encourage paranoia or anything, but if it seemed like a threat from the OB, you should take it seriously and counteract it. Check with the hospital (and call other hospitals to compare) to make sure your decision is supported, make sure your pediatrician supports it, or the most secure option is to just get a midwife.
I'll pray for you and baby.
Thank you. I didn’t seem like a threat but more of like she had to say these things because of her affiliation with the hospital. Doctors are just robots now who have to say what they are told.
Thank you for your prayers. The doctor has grown to know us as a couple over the years. Not to speak too highly of ourselves, but we are a likable, successful, beautiful nuclear family with two thriving children. It would look like a clown show if cps was called in. I use to work in a profession where I was a mandated reporter regarding endangered children. Getting a legitimate case open was laughable. It was absolutely disheartening how much a child has to go through before action is taken. For them to even threaten this is just a part of this upside down world. When will this all be over?!! I’m so tired of it all.
A lot depends on your state and jurisdiction. In a world where people are reasonable, CPS or not being able to take your child home from the hospital wouldn't even be an issue worth considering. But there are dirty CPS agents who can make a pretext out of anything. I'm glad that's not in the picture.
Kindness goes a long way. Love is always the answer, and God takes care of all His children. Congratulations!
Thank you for your kind words. They were beautifully said. God does and always has taken care of us. It’s occasionally difficult not to get trapped in matrix worries. Everything will work in its divine plan. We just have to trust and Give it to God.
You can get a vaccine exemption for any child, including babies from any state health department. It is a quick form to fill out and normally a RN or Nurse will walk you through it if you need assistance. God bless you and your new family member. ❤️
Thank you, I will check this out! Didn’t know you could get an exemption from the health department.
Definitely have the baby at home..evening you took meds for blood pressure or bought device online to keep blood pressure down..regulates breathing etc. Don't trust the medics not to vaxx ...easy to say oops sorry made a mistake.
I wrote out a birth plan that stipulated specifically no hep b or immediate shots. This is a legally binding document. I told the hospital after she was born that I was electing to have our family pediatrician give all the shots at the follow up visit. Obviously we never did. They lie, I lie. That nurse is just trying to scare you with the “won’t let you leave” bullshit. The insurance company decides that - not the moron nurse.
As far as ongoing medical care - this is hard. You really have to look. Join related FB groups. They’ll often have a list. We’ve moved recently and are trying to find one for our kids and are going to try a family medicine doctor instead of a formal pediatrician.
We found that our kids kept getting sick at the well child visits thanks to the germ infested waiting rooms. Once they were past the 0-3yrs stage we just took them 1x a year and if they needed to for illness.
If all shots = no shots, there's no lie.
Love everything you said. How do you go about a birth plan and what makes it legally binding?
You write out what you want specifically on paper and give it to your obgyn and hospital to have on file prior to your birth. Look some templates up online.
I’m not entirely sure what makes it legally binding honestly. Just what I was told - something to do with patients rights. Like an advanced directive is. All I know is one birth I had one and it was followed to a T, second birth I did not and it was a mess and I had a very hard time having my wishes respected and enacted.
Thank you. I will most definitely be moving forward with this.
I am praying that all goes well. If you do deliver in the hospital, it would be a good idea to not let that baby leave your sight until you go home. Mom has baby in the room-Dad follows baby and staff EVERYWHERE baby goes. Don’t take no for an answer. God bless you all!
Thanks for your prayers! This is what we’ve talked about. The baby will not ever be left alone with anyone at all!!
It would be ideal for the baby to be born with the help of a midwife and not at a hospital, but with the first two there were complications due to blood pressure spikes. Granted, mom has made some major life style choices, quit her job, which was a HUGE stressor, got off all prescription meds, and basically lives a much different life than before.
But there’s still the scare that something could go wrong. We really think the high risk protocols attributed to the blood pressure issues. First child was induced, which now we know causes a lot of side affects on its own and a magnesium drip to stop seizures due to blood pressure spikes was given which caused major issues, even out of body feelings almost to the point of hallucinations.
The second delivery was not induced and the recovery was easier but she was closely monitored and did spike slight blood pressure risks. It’s just extremely scary to make a decision that could put either baby or mom in danger. Thank you all for your prayers. Sounds like an exemption file and a birth plan need to be in the works.
I understand the anxiety given the past issues. I believe she will be just fine. Lifestyle changes, especially getting away from the prescriptions, make her much stronger this time around! Thank you for being a great husband and father. The fact that she can be a stay at home mom is because of you. God is going to help you make sure that baby is okay. We’re praying for all of you!😇Please keep us posted when the big day is here. When you get time, of course!
Our life is so different now. It all just fell together and was most definitely a “God thing.” We never saw ourselves having a third child but we also did not see ourselves as a homeschool, stay at home family either. We just need to trust that everything will be okay and are in the divine plans that lie ahead. Thank you for your prayers.
Praying for y'all! Back when I was doing this, when they asked me about that baby's shots I told them our pediatrician would take care of it. They didn't threaten not to discharge!
Don't let them give ANY SHOT. They may say it's vitamin K, but really, they could give the child anything. AVOID.
My kid was a healthy rambunctious child. Loved doing things because he had the skill to figure out how it worked. Got caught by his mom "escaping" through the read fence gate by watching how the neighbor released the latch. So when he was about three the vaxx shots were thrust upon him, I not knowing the results. It seemed like overnight his personality changed. From that moment on he has been almost autistic. No eye contact when being spoken to. No ability to form proper sentences. Hard time expressing thoughts and ideas. Has zero friends, only people he interacts with online. You'd almost call him an odd duck, but I know for certain his problems are a direct result of the shots. But he does have one passion....long rifles. That boy can talk about the inner workings of most long rifles. This is comforting to me knowing there is a brain within that cranial cavity. Be patient with you kid if he/she has had the shots. It might not be your kid's fault, it might be the result of medical technology. If I had to do it over again I would not get him vaxxed.
Thanks for sharing your story. Just like I have to remind myself especially during these worrying time, we all go through everything for a reason. We may not understand now why we have these burdens but one day it will all be clear.
Find a midwife?
Talk with an attorney. Don't leave anything to chance. The first consultation is usually free.
Thanks for your advice. I hope we don’t get some hag of a nurse. Not to toot our own horns, but the spouse and I are pretty easygoing and likable. We typically don’t have any issues with others. Hopefully we can form a good relationship with the staff so they can see we are doing this with the best of intentions.
Great adovice!