We need to look for ways to help one another out! If George Floyd’s Family Can Get MILLIONS of Dollars for absolutely no reason, we can raise millions to help farmers pay for diesel.
Is there anyone willing to help me get a funding campaign going? Let’s put some diesel in these farmers’ tractors. I’m so over the Deep State taking our farmers’ down. Anyone game? Anyone have ideas to get this going? Let’s show the DS we care about one another and beat them at their own game.
https://collapse.news/2022-06-17-pennsylvania-farmers-unable-harvest-crops-diesel-shortage.html
Who knows a diesel trucker we can hire to drop fuel?
My local hay and alfalfa guy has a 3 k tank and when that is gone prices will double And the normal delivery guy has stopped delivering below a certain amount.
A high profile fund would be good. If we had millions we could hire our own trucks to deliver.
I’m with you.
The trick is to get millions to donate very little each so it need to be big!
I’ll start one this afternoon but I’d need help administering it. How do we decide who gets the diesel? Is their an application process? A sign up sheet? Divided between states? Do a funding campaign farmer by farmer? Need help with these kind of questions.
The PA issue SEEMS to be a lack of supply. Wolf the bastard is supposedly going to EO removal of a biofuels order so that out of state diesel can be sold in PA. but right now I think PA issue is one of stupid ass green policies...there's not a shortage, per se, but there is a lack of approved fuel to sell.
I am talking with the head of the farm bureau tomorrow in PA, and I’ll let you know. But through research today, I have to say, diesel is too expensive for some farmers, just as it is too expensive for some truckers. That’s not too hard to grasp?
No for sure that is part of the issue. I'll be interested to hear what you find out!
No for sure that is part of the issue. I'll be interested to hear what you find out!
There are many logical holes in this story:
Would love to hear from a few actual PA farmers to hear their side. However, I’ve spoken with a Few farmers over the years and they are always complaining about something.
I'm not a PA farmer, however, I live on 110 acres that is farmed by a neighboring beef farmer.
Hay may be an issue, they can take that any time. Just did some of my fields a couple weeks ago. Fuel for tractors is always a potential issue and they are moving around this area regularly right now.
Corn is about waist high right now. That's where we are at in the rotation. He switches between corn, wheat, and soybeans. Mostly I think for feed for his cattle but some he also sells.
See my above post for answer to #1 - I believe cannot obtain bc of the green good idea fairies and their law about biodiesel in PA
This isn't beating them at their game I hate to tell you. Everything that is happening right now is the cabal reducing the economy as much as possible, and opening the divide even greater. Also which kind of diesel, the article doesn't say, there is farm grade diesel which is run in tractors/combines/etc which is strictly prohibited by fines to be used in ANYTHING else, and #2 diesel which is used in everything else, semi trucks, diesel cars/trucks/generators.
Farmers paying higher prices for diesel = higher prices to sell product at market, which translates consumers paying more, which means we are again on the losing side of this equation, as the higher prices take more money away from you. The only way to slow down the economic attack on the population is full on bartering and trade or be self sufficient and grow your own.
So a farmer gets to drive his tractor and harvest his corn. Let’s make it happen.
You are missing the point completely.....
Everyone is paying more for everything, which amounts to the overall consumer pool of funds being depleted. 401K is being obliterated, mortgage rates are insanely high, $200 of groceries, gets you a few bags of items, $187 gets you less than 23 gallons of fuel in Sacramento, the stock market is wretched, the fools that kept pushing bitcoin of any type are wailing and gnashing their teeth, and on and on. By subsidizing the farmer, you or anyone else is pulling an additional amount from your dwindling funds, psst your money now isn't worth what it was 10 months ago. This isn't a case of one part of the public having less, it is EVERYONE having less. Shuffling money to a farmer to pay for diesel is not by any stretch going to bring down the cost of wheat, corn, soybeans or anything else, prices will continue to rise and EVERYONE will be paying the rise in prices regardless. All of what is happening now is contrived, manipulated and fake. There is no oil shortage, from the deposits we know about here in the US(not included other unmapped ones), we could supply oil for 400+ yrs MINIMUM, there is no shortage of anything, there are farmers being paid right this minute to not produce, and this isn't the first time this happened, Roosevelt with his socialist BS, did the same damn thing during the 40's. When industries are being paid to NOT ship product to induce fake shortages, that isn't the problem, it is the government who pays them with tax payer money, that is the problem. It is a worldwide completely engineered shortage based on bullshit.
The point being that nothing such as the idea of paying for fuel is going to matter. Who then is going to pay for your fuel when you need to go to work, or the market for that matter, who is going to pay for your water/gas/electric, are you going to ask those same farmers who you covered their diesel cost to cover your electric bill b/c you can't keep your refrigerator running? This is chipping away at everyone that earns a paycheck, the only people that it isn't affecting are the dopes on social assistance or some other government(tax payer funded) program.
No amount of emotional feel good is going to fix the diesel issue, or "at least I am doing my part" silliness. Throwing money to farmers will last about 5 mins, the people will be pissed they have less than they currently do. We're going to have to ride this out till the Q team and Trump finally put their part into motion. Till that time occurs, we are looking at induced civil unrest, fake shortages of necessary goods/services and people becoming unemployed and losing their homes.
Rarely do I read lengthy comments, as they often consist of too many disjointed thoughts, making it difficult to follow. Yours is so full of common sense and reason, it made for an easy read. All valid points; excellent on all fronts. Signed in just to upvote.
There's at least one farm out there that runs 100% on sunflower oil.. Heat, electricity, vehicles, all run on the oil the farmer expeller presses.
Biodiesel......
The original diesel engine was created to run on peanut oil......
Kinda hard to control farmers by increasing fuel prices if they make their own fuel................
just saying..
Sounds like a great plan! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/9f/4f/bf9f4f7f0498bb200d0a211b77f73647.gif
A lot of farmers are suffering the same in our country. I was wondering if equipment could be modified to run on electricity and solar panels.
I watch a farming YouTube Chanel. Costs are way up,but they expect to sell it at a very high price. They said if they get a crop they will make enough to pay off some loan....,really make bank this year.
If they don't get rain, they will do OK with crop insurance. They are expecting a dry year so they cut back on planting and cut back on the amount of fertilizer.