Great tribulation/persecution such as the world has ever seen and The pouring out of the vials/ Gods wrath, are two completely different things! False teachers have taught a lie. Even Kirk Cameron has admitted that the left behind series is incorrect and based on a theory that is no older than 250 years. The KJV has been in existence longer.
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Great tribulation/persecution such as the world has ever seen and The pouring out of the vials/ Gods wrath, are two completely different things!
Yes, and I won't be here for either of them. I'm going up with the body of Christ before the Lord restores the nation of Israel.
Sorry to hear that
1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Last Trump! Not before!
Revelation 4:1 KJV After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Before^^ the first seal is loosed.
A voice AS of a trumpet. This is not a trump. It is a loud voice that is loud like a trumpet.
Rev 4:4 KJV And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
Only believers in Jesus Christ, during the dispensation of Grace, receive white raiment and crowns of gold.
These 42 elders are Old Testament saints
At the last Trump. The dead are raised first. Then those who are alive and remain. See the word spells out the exact order of things on the last day and the 3-1.5 years leading up to this about 15 times.
I know how that scripture is used. I dont want to debate with a fellow Christian on this glorious day.
The day of the Lord. The last Trump. That is what this scripture is talking about.. When does antichrist come?
Thank you for the wonderful scripture you posted about today's victory.
When does antichrist come?
Revelation 6 KJV 1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
Where you going? Because Christ dosnt gather the elect until after the abomination that makes desolation and after he raises the dead then the rest will be caught up. Then the sun and moon are darkened and the vials are poured out. It’s all there in plain English. You will not be raptured befor the tribulation of the new world order. It happens in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week in a 75 day span where the anti christ is beheading the church that rufuses his mark.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 KJV For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
The Holy Spirit is "He who letteth" and He will be taken out with the body of Christ, leaving no one here to restrain the antiChrist.
Because Christ dosnt gather the elect until after the abomination that makes desolation
A desolation that takes place in a Jewish temple. Inside this same Jewish temple, Jewish blood sacrifices are also taken away. After that, the Jewish people have to work for their salvation by not taking the mark or worshipping the image.
I'm not Jewish.
Dispensation is wrong. This is what c.I. Scofeild taught. If you’ll go back through revelation. Matthew and Thessalonians you will find that these all happen after the abomination. There is no pre trib rapture. It is mid trib pre wrath. The spirit is taken out because we are transformed into the original just as Adam was. We will watch Christ destroy the earth as the vials are poured out on the Jews and all who did not follow Christ
Scofield wasn't the first. The apostles were. It's all in the Bible. Luther even taught it. The Old Testament time was salvation by faith and works. We are currently in the dispensation of Grace, salvation by faith alone. During the tribulation it is back to salvation by faith and works, not taking the mark, etc. During the Thousand Year Reign, salvation is by works alone, Christ is on Earth, you do not need faith. Different dispensations.
There are no church ages persay and it has never been works. Christ said, Peter said, Paul said, Christs Grace is sufficient. For God so loved the world that WHOSOEVER BELEVIETH . It is not of works, lest any man should boast. It is by faith alone through Grace alone and the works come from the Holy Spirit that guides the believer (new creation) to do that which God had written on his heart and mind. Too many theologies out there that over think the scriptures when it really is simple. It confirms itself over and over in different dialect
Have you read this?
https://www.baytallah.com/books/Dispensational-Truth-Clarence-Larkin.pdf
Or are you just going by what other people say? I was once LOST in the scriptures, unable to make heads or tails of it because I did not rightly divide the word. What does the phrase "rightly dividing the word" even mean but dispensation? Why would a professing believer in Christ need to be "ruled with a rod of iron?" Do you eat pork, observe the Sabbath Day?
Trust me, brother.
It was the 14 year old girl, forgot her name, and John Darby who spread it like garbage. Then Scofeild decided he could get rich selling bibles so, he did!
There are 6 raptures in the Bible (not all of them involve the resurrecting of the dead.)
Enoch, who was taken by God.
Elijah (some say he died first, I haven't seen it, he flew off in a chariot)
The firstfruits in Christ, raised up when He died on the cross, Matthew 27. (most likely Old Testament saints and the two year old males killed by Herod)
The church, the harvest (believers from the time Stephen was stoned by the Jews rejecting the Gospel, until the rapture.)
Tribulation saints, the gleanings (those who do not take the mark of the beast or worship the image and are beheaded for it [this is where every one goes off the rails, are you really telling me that everyone has to be beheaded to be saved in Christ?])
The Great White Throne Judgement. The rest of the dead that lived not again for a thousand years. All will be judged by Christ and His saints. This is where the lake of fire gets filled up. I recommend repenting NOW and avoiding that day.
The saints do not appear in heaven until after the abomination. All who are alive and remain will die except Christ shorten those days, no flesh would be saved.
Tribulation saints refers to the fact that the saints are not caught up until midway through the tribulation. This in itself is proof that there is no pretrib rapture. This teaching will cause millions to take the mark because they won’t believe it is the mark. They will have not seen a rapture therefore it cannot be tribulation. Trib and wrath are two different things.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
If I have to be beheaded, how can I "remain alive?"
Except those days be shortened, shall no flesh be saved. The majority will be muttered by the antichrist. Then I saw a great multitude under the alter, and they said how long Lord holy and true till you avenge them who have killed us. And they were told to wait until the rest be killed. Not all will be beheaded but most will. Some will be spared. The antichrist will make war on the saints and there will be a great falling away. Aka mass death of believers.
It takes place in a span of appx 75 days. We don’t know the day or hour but will see it soon approaching as it gets nearer. But when you see the sign of Daniel the prophet and the antichrist stand in the holy place. Watch because you have 75 days. How will they know where every Christian is hiding? They won’t. Some will be caught up while alive. But it will not be like left behind. When Noah was in the arc it was him and his family that were left behind on earth. The rest were all taken away to death by the flood. As in the days of Noah. But it has to be taken in context.
But when you see the sign of Daniel the prophet and the antichrist stand in the holy place.
Read the book of Daniel carefully. Daniel prays for his people. God answers concerning the transgression of Daniels people. I did not reject the Messiah, I welcomed Him with open arms and heart. This is the transgression of Daniels people, killing the prophets who came to tell of the Messiah. God pronounced their punishment and went silent for 400 years. I have NOTHING to do with this. I would be sincerely pissed off about going through the trib/wrath, why did I bother believing if I could have just partied and waited until my head was cut off? It makes no sense.
Another thing to think about, your home has become infested with vermin and you plan on burning them out in the most major way. Would you leave your bride in the house while you were burning it?
The whole purpose of the tribulations are to convert unbelieving Israel (and gentiles) by making it so bad that they turn to God for redemption. Are you in need of this or is the shed blood of Christ enough for you?