Except they aren't. There's plenty of people in the middle. The problem is partly that the left has pushed the "middle" so far away from where it used to be that now the middle is practically on-demand abortion all the way up to birth. Leftism is a fully degenerate and an unnatural and forced ideology that shouldn't be considered when making decisions. What they want really isn't important until they stop supporting the grooming of children.
What we need is to bring the country back to reason and then the two sides that are actually reasonable can debate and discuss on what the best way to implement these policies and rules are. Even just on the right there's plenty of range in opinions to have discussions over how to do things. We need to get back to people agreeing on what they want and disagreeing on how to achieve it (agreeing that protecting children is paramount and working to find out how to best do that vs one side wanting to protect children and the other wanting to murder than after birth and groom them).
You seemed to be responding to my claim about murder being illegal at the federal level with the claim that it's already broken up by the different states. My response was to make a nice and simple scenario that wasn't up for interpretation and would be clearly illegal in all jurisdictions. The scenario is also almost identical to what abortion is. I don't see the strawman.
Nobody shoots someone in the head for "no reason" either. The implication is that the reason is bogus and unjustified and therefor basically non-existent, just like murdering an unborn baby has no justifiable reason.
I also said "almost identical". Either way the end result is the same and that was my point. The unjustifiable murder of an unborn baby.
Not supporting the murder of unborn children is not fanaticism, it's called not being a degenerate. It's either a child and you can never kill it, or it isn't a child until birth and you can kill it any time before birth. And no, there's no magic moment where it goes from a clump of cells to being a child in the womb.
The left has pushed so far that regular beliefs are now "fanaticism". The sharp move to the far left is extremely inorganic and forced and thus should be ignored.
The middle ground is between no abortion and abortion with moderate to heavy regulation. Not between no abortion and abortion 5 months after birth or whatever other bullshit. This is just one example of the far lefts affect on society. Their move to the extreme left has stretched out what's considered the "middle" so people who take normal positions on the right that are only slightly more to the right than others are now massive extremists who are miles away from the "center".
And what do you even think finding a middle ground is? Everyone wanting the middle ground? No, it's people on both ends of the spectrum agreeing to compromise on something that isn't quite what they wanted instead of staying locked in argument over it and getting nothing done. This spectrum does not and should not include an ideology of literal child groomers and post-birth baby murderers. This is also where leftists fail, they can't compromise on anything without it being utterly superficial and meaningless.
I want abortion to be illegal and treated as just as barbaric as the gladiator matches of the past (because it is), that doesn't mean I won't compromise and support a ban with exceptions for rape or one that allows abortion before a heartbeat. But I'm also not going to stop saying what I believe and pushing for what I believe is right. I also won't "compromise" between vastly different extremes. Such as allowing late term abortion as a "compromise" between no abortion and post-birth abortion. That kind of shit is simply out of the range of reasonable views and shouldn't be entertained or attempted to find middle ground with.
Except they aren't. There's plenty of people in the middle. The problem is partly that the left has pushed the "middle" so far away from where it used to be that now the middle is practically on-demand abortion all the way up to birth. Leftism is a fully degenerate and an unnatural and forced ideology that shouldn't be considered when making decisions. What they want really isn't important until they stop supporting the grooming of children.
What we need is to bring the country back to reason and then the two sides that are actually reasonable can debate and discuss on what the best way to implement these policies and rules are. Even just on the right there's plenty of range in opinions to have discussions over how to do things. We need to get back to people agreeing on what they want and disagreeing on how to achieve it (agreeing that protecting children is paramount and working to find out how to best do that vs one side wanting to protect children and the other wanting to murder than after birth and groom them).
You seemed to be responding to my claim about murder being illegal at the federal level with the claim that it's already broken up by the different states. My response was to make a nice and simple scenario that wasn't up for interpretation and would be clearly illegal in all jurisdictions. The scenario is also almost identical to what abortion is. I don't see the strawman.
"The scenario is also almost identical to what abortion is."
No, nobody gets abortion for "no reason."
Nobody shoots someone in the head for "no reason" either. The implication is that the reason is bogus and unjustified and therefor basically non-existent, just like murdering an unborn baby has no justifiable reason.
I also said "almost identical". Either way the end result is the same and that was my point. The unjustifiable murder of an unborn baby.
And you think you're going to find a middle ground when you're one of the fanatics on the right?
Not supporting the murder of unborn children is not fanaticism, it's called not being a degenerate. It's either a child and you can never kill it, or it isn't a child until birth and you can kill it any time before birth. And no, there's no magic moment where it goes from a clump of cells to being a child in the womb.
The left has pushed so far that regular beliefs are now "fanaticism". The sharp move to the far left is extremely inorganic and forced and thus should be ignored.
The middle ground is between no abortion and abortion with moderate to heavy regulation. Not between no abortion and abortion 5 months after birth or whatever other bullshit. This is just one example of the far lefts affect on society. Their move to the extreme left has stretched out what's considered the "middle" so people who take normal positions on the right that are only slightly more to the right than others are now massive extremists who are miles away from the "center".
And what do you even think finding a middle ground is? Everyone wanting the middle ground? No, it's people on both ends of the spectrum agreeing to compromise on something that isn't quite what they wanted instead of staying locked in argument over it and getting nothing done. This spectrum does not and should not include an ideology of literal child groomers and post-birth baby murderers. This is also where leftists fail, they can't compromise on anything without it being utterly superficial and meaningless.
I want abortion to be illegal and treated as just as barbaric as the gladiator matches of the past (because it is), that doesn't mean I won't compromise and support a ban with exceptions for rape or one that allows abortion before a heartbeat. But I'm also not going to stop saying what I believe and pushing for what I believe is right. I also won't "compromise" between vastly different extremes. Such as allowing late term abortion as a "compromise" between no abortion and post-birth abortion. That kind of shit is simply out of the range of reasonable views and shouldn't be entertained or attempted to find middle ground with.