As well as unbiblical, anti-Christ teaching, fake rituals, idol worship etc etc.
I had the misfortune to go to a convent boarding school, it was the most unChristian place imaginable. The priest who came to say mass was a disgusting lecher. Satanic cult, hope it all goes down and my family get to see why I have been urging them to get saved and worship God in Spirit and Truth.
Now see how many Jesuit shills on here come out to defend and downvote.
I had the misfortune to attend Catholic elementary school. The nuns were absolutely brutal, and I went to school every morning dreading the day. My mother wouldn't let me go to public school because it wasn't prestigious enough for her. I escaped in sixth grade and went to public school. There was nothing Christian about the Catholic school.
By their fruit ye shall know them. I could not go home and was left alone to eat my Christmas dinner while the nuns partied, it stuck in my throat. No love, no kindness, no warmth, no Christian spirit. Most nuns were total bitches, one was specially stuck up and proudly kept reminding us she had taught the daughters of Prince Rainier of Monaco. Another hit a young girl who was homesick round the face with the back of a hairbrush to stop her crying, then wen to mass looking all saintly. Horrible place, horrible people with only 3 exceptions: Sisters Rita and Gertrude who worked in the kitchen, and Sister Dominica who was a bit of a laid back hippy and turned a kindly blind eye on occasions where others would have pounced with glee. And the worst of all - Sister Scholastica, the very epitome of a hard core nazi with a face of granite. Nothing Christian because they were not Christian.
Yikes, at least I got to go home at the end of the day. BTW, the first school I went to was a small, inner city Catholic school, and the nuns there were amazing. Very kind, loved the children, didn't use corporal punishment. The second school was in a very rich area and the nuns treated the rich kids well, but the rest of us, the Great Unwashed, were treated like crap. I also was not of an ethnicity that they liked, so that didn't help.
I left by mutual agreement, lied about my age and got a job. All because I took an anorexic girl under my wing (she was being bullied for not eating but would eat with gentle encouragement) and the little girl who was homesick. My crime was smiling at her and pulling a funny face to cheer her up during mass one morning. Can you imagine anything worse?
It all turned to the good: I lost my faith but never stopped believing in God. After going down a lot of blind alleys I got saved. God id good, all things turn to the good to those who love him.
Reading threw many articles I have discovered that the percentage ranges from 2% (what the Church says... on this page.) However the 2% is only concerning prepubescent children. Plenty of Pedophiles seek children AFTER puberty.
If the actual rate is lower say 5% (claimed USA rate in some lawsuits) That's a huge problem. There are approximately 38,000 priests in the US, and that's a decrease from almost 60,000,50 years ago.
That's not the complete picture though, because children sometimes become imprinted to become a pedophile themselves.
Proverb 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
This also means the opposite in that you can train your children up in the wrong way.
You need to specify ROMAN Catholic priests. In the eastern Catholic churches married men can become priests. I have never heard of any eastern rite pedo priest.
Can you provide data regarding other Christian faiths? I'm of the opinion that it is more prevalent in the Catholic church due to priests not having wives.
As far as Jews and Muslims, they have a lot even if not being talked about as much. The Kite Flyer was a good movie exposing the Muslim pedo thing.
Sodomy has been an issue with humanity since the beginning. "extensive child sexual abuse" exists within every powerful organization on the planet including the catholic church, protestant churches, public schools, corporate foundations, etc....
Q calls out the red shoe club at the vatican while showing support for archbishop vigano so there's definitely something we should be looking into here.
However, I don't think the tradition of priestly celibacy is the target we're after. To claim that "child sexual abuse" within the church didn't start until 1080 doesn't fully grasp the truth. Here's a decent article supporting the claim that this issue has existed since the beginning:
https://helenaglass.net/2019/03/19/pedophilia-a-catholic-churchs-history/
The church itself is clear in the teaching that the only sexual relations which are in accordance with the natural law of God are relations that are within the confines of marriage and open to procreation. So those within the church committing these crimes aren't even following the teachings their own organization.
Why isn't there more transparency within the church regarding clergy that commit these atrocities? Who is covering up the crimes?
Why won't the media present the facts that have come out about obvious abuses within various organizations (e.g. legionnaires )?
Why hasn't the laundering at the vatican bank been publicized?
Why hasn't the infiltration of US seminaries and systematic promottion of priests that are favorable to sodomy while forcing out those more true to the faith been exposed broadly?
The answer to all of these and more I pray will be fully exposed when the deep state cabal within the church is exposed alongside the deep state leaders within governments worldwide, the human traffickers, the bankers etc....It's all the same enemy.
The enemy isn't the Catholic church; it's those that have infiltrated the church and abuse it's position to cover up evil around the world.
What a time to be alive that we can actually be hopeful that we'll see the fall of the cabal.
Lastly, the original St. Michael prayer from Pope Leo XIII in 1888 plainly admits to the corruption which exists:
"These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered."
Some good points, I should have been more clear in that pedos within the church increased in 1080, a great place to hide so the parents are not pressuring one to get married...
Jesus was not married, and although there are exceptions, catholic priests are supposed to follow Christ’s example and devote themselves entirely to evangelism and offering the sacraments. Additionally, all the apostles, as far as I am aware, also lived celibate lives spreading the gospels after Christ’s resurrection.
There are many priests that faithfully follow this example today, and there are some that do not. The problem has more to do with the embrace of modernism and the lack discipline in much of the modern church rather than the long tradition of celibacy.
Note that nocturnal emissions happen if there is no sexual activity. I doubt if there are many men able to not have sex of some type, even if only self-pleasure.
Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others."
“For God’s sake, why do you damnable sodomites pursue the heights of ecclesiastical dignity with such fiery ambition?” - Saint Peter Damian, Book of Gomorrah (1051)
It's sodomites, the Catholic Church has been infected and infiltrated by damnable, grooming sodomites. But she is the spotless bride of Christ and they'll be ejected soon enough.
The Church of Christ is made up of born again believers. I came out of the Catholic Church and joined a church made up of Born Again Believers. The Catholic Church is NOT the spotless bride of Christ. The collective of Born Again Believers all over the world from the time of Christ up until His return are the Spotless Bride of Christ.
They are made spotless by His sacrifice, because He willingly went to the cross as the Spotless Lamb of God, where God put the sins of all those who would believe on His son and put His own Son to death as propitiation to satisfy the judgements of God. 2 Cor 5:21 says "For He (God) made Him (Jesus) who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."
Only those who are Born Again will be part of the Spotless Bride of Christ.
For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back until we reach Peter himself, to whom, as a figure of the whole Church, the Lord said: “Upon this rock will I build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!” [Mt 16:18]. - Augustine of Hippo (400 AD)
That's an improper exegesis of the text. Peter or in the Greek Petros = stone, pebble or small rock. Rock in Greek is Petra = Rock, cliff, or ledge.
Christ was referring to the statement Peter had made about Christ when he said "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
It is also evident that Peter was not the first Pope or even the head of the Church in Rome because in Acts 15 Paul goes to meet with the Apostles and Elders of the church to discuss whether gentiles need to be circumcised, and it is James, the brother of Jesus, who makes the ruling for the church, and not Peter.
Catholic teaching is that Peter is the first Pope and that there is a direct line of succession from the Pope of today all the way to Peter, except history tells us otherwise. I was once a practicing Catholic and was taught doctrines of Catholicism. I left in 1982 and became born again in 1989, and joined a Bible preaching church, that teaches sola scriptura, sola gratia and sola fide, that is, scripture alone, by grace alone, through faith alone. That is to say salvation is not by works, but by the Grace of God, through faith which is a gift of God, based on the Gospel which is the Word of God.
In Aramiac there is only one word for rock and that is Kephas. So it would say "your are Kepha and upon said Kepha I will build my Church." Augustine is only 350 years separated from Christ so I trust him over you. And Cyprian was only 200 years separated.
The Lord says to Peter: “I say to you,” he says, “that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .” [Mt 16:18–19]. On him he builds the Church, and commands him to feed the sheep [Jn 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were also what Peter was [apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, by which it is made clear that there is one Church and one chair. . . . If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he think that he holds the faith? If he deserts the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he be confident that he is in the Church? - Cyprian of Carthage, 250 AD
The exegesis of the early Church Fathers is far more accurate than anything someone 2000 years removed can say.
The New Testament was written in Greek, and that is why the distinction between pebble or small rock, and the rock or boulder of the statement Peter made, which was as Jesus said, "revealed to you from my Father who is in heaven."
Notice that a few verses later, Jesus calls Peter Satan.
"22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
And Jesus spoke in Aramaic, and Greek is an inflected language hence the change in gendered words. Don't dodge the early Church Fathers, Ambrose is only 330 years separated from Christ.
[Christ] made answer: “You are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church. . . .” Could he not, then, strengthen the faith of the man to whom, acting on his own authority, he gave the kingdom, whom he called the rock, thereby declaring him to be the foundation of the Church. - Ambrose of Milan, 380 AD
Ambrose, Cyprian, Augustine (~200-300 years away) > rickynotricky (2000 years away)
Jesus spoke in Aramaic, Greek, and Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek. Men wrote down the Bible as they were led by the Holy Spirit. What we have for the NT is what was delivered in the Greek. Why did God use Greek? Because it is the most specific language available. Martin Luther also went against the church and its traditions in favor or sola scriptura.
As well as unbiblical, anti-Christ teaching, fake rituals, idol worship etc etc.
I had the misfortune to go to a convent boarding school, it was the most unChristian place imaginable. The priest who came to say mass was a disgusting lecher. Satanic cult, hope it all goes down and my family get to see why I have been urging them to get saved and worship God in Spirit and Truth.
Now see how many Jesuit shills on here come out to defend and downvote.
I had the misfortune to attend Catholic elementary school. The nuns were absolutely brutal, and I went to school every morning dreading the day. My mother wouldn't let me go to public school because it wasn't prestigious enough for her. I escaped in sixth grade and went to public school. There was nothing Christian about the Catholic school.
By their fruit ye shall know them. I could not go home and was left alone to eat my Christmas dinner while the nuns partied, it stuck in my throat. No love, no kindness, no warmth, no Christian spirit. Most nuns were total bitches, one was specially stuck up and proudly kept reminding us she had taught the daughters of Prince Rainier of Monaco. Another hit a young girl who was homesick round the face with the back of a hairbrush to stop her crying, then wen to mass looking all saintly. Horrible place, horrible people with only 3 exceptions: Sisters Rita and Gertrude who worked in the kitchen, and Sister Dominica who was a bit of a laid back hippy and turned a kindly blind eye on occasions where others would have pounced with glee. And the worst of all - Sister Scholastica, the very epitome of a hard core nazi with a face of granite. Nothing Christian because they were not Christian.
Yikes, at least I got to go home at the end of the day. BTW, the first school I went to was a small, inner city Catholic school, and the nuns there were amazing. Very kind, loved the children, didn't use corporal punishment. The second school was in a very rich area and the nuns treated the rich kids well, but the rest of us, the Great Unwashed, were treated like crap. I also was not of an ethnicity that they liked, so that didn't help.
I left by mutual agreement, lied about my age and got a job. All because I took an anorexic girl under my wing (she was being bullied for not eating but would eat with gentle encouragement) and the little girl who was homesick. My crime was smiling at her and pulling a funny face to cheer her up during mass one morning. Can you imagine anything worse?
It all turned to the good: I lost my faith but never stopped believing in God. After going down a lot of blind alleys I got saved. God id good, all things turn to the good to those who love him.
I never lost my belief in God either, and for that I am very grateful. Sounds as though you weathered the storm as well.
This wiki page shows that it is a worldwide problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
Reading threw many articles I have discovered that the percentage ranges from 2% (what the Church says... on this page.) However the 2% is only concerning prepubescent children. Plenty of Pedophiles seek children AFTER puberty.
https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2021/03/are-catholic-clergy-more-likely-to-be-paedophiles-than-the-general-public-redux/
To as high as 10% as this vlogger claims on this page.
https://cityofangels8.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-stats-10-percent-of-catholic.html
If the actual rate is lower say 5% (claimed USA rate in some lawsuits) That's a huge problem. There are approximately 38,000 priests in the US, and that's a decrease from almost 60,000,50 years ago.
That's not the complete picture though, because children sometimes become imprinted to become a pedophile themselves.
Proverb 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
This also means the opposite in that you can train your children up in the wrong way.
You need to specify ROMAN Catholic priests. In the eastern Catholic churches married men can become priests. I have never heard of any eastern rite pedo priest.
Yes, a much lower incidence among faiths allowing priests to be married.
Can you provide data regarding other Christian faiths? I'm of the opinion that it is more prevalent in the Catholic church due to priests not having wives.
As far as Jews and Muslims, they have a lot even if not being talked about as much. The Kite Flyer was a good movie exposing the Muslim pedo thing.
Sodomy has been an issue with humanity since the beginning. "extensive child sexual abuse" exists within every powerful organization on the planet including the catholic church, protestant churches, public schools, corporate foundations, etc....
Q calls out the red shoe club at the vatican while showing support for archbishop vigano so there's definitely something we should be looking into here.
However, I don't think the tradition of priestly celibacy is the target we're after. To claim that "child sexual abuse" within the church didn't start until 1080 doesn't fully grasp the truth. Here's a decent article supporting the claim that this issue has existed since the beginning: https://helenaglass.net/2019/03/19/pedophilia-a-catholic-churchs-history/
The church itself is clear in the teaching that the only sexual relations which are in accordance with the natural law of God are relations that are within the confines of marriage and open to procreation. So those within the church committing these crimes aren't even following the teachings their own organization.
Why isn't there more transparency within the church regarding clergy that commit these atrocities? Who is covering up the crimes? Why won't the media present the facts that have come out about obvious abuses within various organizations (e.g. legionnaires )? Why hasn't the laundering at the vatican bank been publicized? Why hasn't the infiltration of US seminaries and systematic promottion of priests that are favorable to sodomy while forcing out those more true to the faith been exposed broadly?
The answer to all of these and more I pray will be fully exposed when the deep state cabal within the church is exposed alongside the deep state leaders within governments worldwide, the human traffickers, the bankers etc....It's all the same enemy.
The enemy isn't the Catholic church; it's those that have infiltrated the church and abuse it's position to cover up evil around the world.
What a time to be alive that we can actually be hopeful that we'll see the fall of the cabal.
Lastly, the original St. Michael prayer from Pope Leo XIII in 1888 plainly admits to the corruption which exists: "These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered."
Some good points, I should have been more clear in that pedos within the church increased in 1080, a great place to hide so the parents are not pressuring one to get married...
Gee, might have something to do with going against God's Word from the start. Evil is as evil does.
Jesus was not married, and although there are exceptions, catholic priests are supposed to follow Christ’s example and devote themselves entirely to evangelism and offering the sacraments. Additionally, all the apostles, as far as I am aware, also lived celibate lives spreading the gospels after Christ’s resurrection.
There are many priests that faithfully follow this example today, and there are some that do not. The problem has more to do with the embrace of modernism and the lack discipline in much of the modern church rather than the long tradition of celibacy.
Note that nocturnal emissions happen if there is no sexual activity. I doubt if there are many men able to not have sex of some type, even if only self-pleasure.
*Yawn
https://www.newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625
https://twitter.com/ProtecttheFaith/status/1549369579742400512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Jt6el2LFQ
It's sodomites, the Catholic Church has been infected and infiltrated by damnable, grooming sodomites. But she is the spotless bride of Christ and they'll be ejected soon enough.
The Church of Christ is made up of born again believers. I came out of the Catholic Church and joined a church made up of Born Again Believers. The Catholic Church is NOT the spotless bride of Christ. The collective of Born Again Believers all over the world from the time of Christ up until His return are the Spotless Bride of Christ. They are made spotless by His sacrifice, because He willingly went to the cross as the Spotless Lamb of God, where God put the sins of all those who would believe on His son and put His own Son to death as propitiation to satisfy the judgements of God. 2 Cor 5:21 says "For He (God) made Him (Jesus) who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."
Only those who are Born Again will be part of the Spotless Bride of Christ.
That's an improper exegesis of the text. Peter or in the Greek Petros = stone, pebble or small rock. Rock in Greek is Petra = Rock, cliff, or ledge.
Christ was referring to the statement Peter had made about Christ when he said "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
It is also evident that Peter was not the first Pope or even the head of the Church in Rome because in Acts 15 Paul goes to meet with the Apostles and Elders of the church to discuss whether gentiles need to be circumcised, and it is James, the brother of Jesus, who makes the ruling for the church, and not Peter.
Catholic teaching is that Peter is the first Pope and that there is a direct line of succession from the Pope of today all the way to Peter, except history tells us otherwise. I was once a practicing Catholic and was taught doctrines of Catholicism. I left in 1982 and became born again in 1989, and joined a Bible preaching church, that teaches sola scriptura, sola gratia and sola fide, that is, scripture alone, by grace alone, through faith alone. That is to say salvation is not by works, but by the Grace of God, through faith which is a gift of God, based on the Gospel which is the Word of God.
In Aramiac there is only one word for rock and that is Kephas. So it would say "your are Kepha and upon said Kepha I will build my Church." Augustine is only 350 years separated from Christ so I trust him over you. And Cyprian was only 200 years separated.
The exegesis of the early Church Fathers is far more accurate than anything someone 2000 years removed can say.
The New Testament was written in Greek, and that is why the distinction between pebble or small rock, and the rock or boulder of the statement Peter made, which was as Jesus said, "revealed to you from my Father who is in heaven."
Notice that a few verses later, Jesus calls Peter Satan. "22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
And Jesus spoke in Aramaic, and Greek is an inflected language hence the change in gendered words. Don't dodge the early Church Fathers, Ambrose is only 330 years separated from Christ.
Ambrose, Cyprian, Augustine (~200-300 years away) > rickynotricky (2000 years away)
Jesus spoke in Aramaic, Greek, and Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek. Men wrote down the Bible as they were led by the Holy Spirit. What we have for the NT is what was delivered in the Greek. Why did God use Greek? Because it is the most specific language available. Martin Luther also went against the church and its traditions in favor or sola scriptura.