I'm finding it hard to get them to at least consider that we might have some "earthly help" with Trump and the military and Q and they are very black pilled and ready for rapture. Has anybody had the same issue?
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Matthew 24:29-31 has clearly not happened yet. The word rapture, similar to the word Trinity, is not found in scripture but the concept is present.
I think it has.
Matthew 24
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
70 AD
Luke 21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
It's a great study. I think we're further along than we think which is pretty kool.
Here's a great link of info. But but my pastor... nevermind about your pastor! He's there for the money!
https://news.gab.com/2021/12/01/matthew-24-and-revelation-fulfilled-in-ad-70-or-future-part-5/
I'll admit verse 34 is difficult to reconcile if you think the translation of γενεά as generation is correct.
I do think if everything happened in AD 67-70 it's likely we would have a record of the sky changing and stars falling in history. I lean more toward the interpretation that γενεά in this context means people group, age, or family. All would be appropriate and imo it fits more with the surrounding context. I am completely open to evidence otherwise however. My conclusions don't have anything to do with my current pastors.
1611 comes up with generation. Where did you come up with yevea?
Matthew 24:34 [34]Uerely I say vnto you, this generation shall not passe, till all these things be fulfilled.
I like what you said about the pastors. Nothing like doing your own research with the Spirit guiding you.
At one time I glossed over the significance of what the Romans did in that 70 AD period then I learned more and it was quite devastating and complete.
Let's face it nothing pisses people off more than the Judeans. 1611 KJV 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15 [14]For yee, brethren, became followers of the Churches of God, which in Iudea are in Christ Iesus: for ye also haue suffered like things of your owne countreymen, euen as they haue of the Iewes: [15]Who both killed the Lord Iesus, and their owne Prophets, and haue persecuted vs: and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
Notable hints. Jesus said I have not found so great faith no not in Israel when he was referring to that believing Centurion.
The fig tree he cursed for not having any fruit. I think Matt 21:19
In Matthew 23 Jesus mentions that generation again. We didn't have news coverage and cameras on the ground when Rome came in and leveled everything and swept it away around 70 AD.
Did Jesus return at that time?? Once again anyone taking notes not a Roman I presume was killed. So no witnesses.
Fascinating study.
γενεά is the Greek word used in verse 34 - https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24.htm
I think while it's possible he did return in 70 AD based on the description, Revelation matches the series of events pretty closely and then goes into a millennium kingdom.
If we're past the great tribulation there is either a long time inbetween that and when the millennium kingdom occurs, or we missed it. Both of those seem unlikely to me based on the text.
The other option I can think of is the passage in Matthew and Revelation are referring to different events, but that would mean the events in Revelation are less of a Tribulation than the Great Tribulation in Matthew.