Another reason to not donate to the RNC
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Thanks for the reply. BTW, you may want to delete info. that could potentially be used to doxx you.
I believe the root cause of our disagreeing positions involve how we view the republican party. You see it from a "glass half full" perspective, whereas I see it from a "glass half empty" perspective. Actually, I view it as the glass being empty, and shattered, with the few remaining drops of water running off the table in need of a new glass- and fast.
I am going to try not to be overly long winded here, because I know my position will not change at any time in the foreseeable future, and I suspect that yours will not either.
While I could fill enough filing cabinets with documentation of the many incident's displaying the republican party's repeated dereliction of duty to sink a cargo ship, I will simply point out that the failings of the party are not isolated incident's, and in fact fit a long standing pattern of behavior that shows the party to be beyond simple repair, or reform.
•George Bush Sr. Father of the phrase "New World Order; thousand points of light." Founder of the "Free Trade" agreements with communist China that his uniparty successor Bill Clinton signed into law.
That all happened 30 years ago. The Republican party did that. But conservative voters- and more importantly, big $ corporate funding gave the (R) party a free pass.
•Bill Clinton White Water scandal. Bill and Hillary should have been locked up. Instead the republican party turned the criminal, independent council endeavor into "blowjob gate" and let the crooks off the hook, and never pursuing their criminal enterprise since.
•John Brennan. How did the republican party allow a communist to head the CIA? Who was prosecuted for the MK Ultra program? Bill Clinton said "we're sorry," and the (R) party called it good, now forget it about peasants.
•Bush Jr. Who did the republican party prosecute for the "weapons of mass destruction" lies? Let's do the "Patriot Act" instead. The republican party did that.
•Hussein. The criminally incompetent (R) party can't even figure out how to read a birth certificate. Sure they "can't."
Benghazi murders. Prosecutions= 0. Are you starting to see a pattern yet?
Hillary Clinton's stolen "special access protocol" national security secrets found on her (illegal to even own) basement server. Hang on, the (R) party will get right on that. BTW, who gave congressional approval for James Comey to head the FBI? Lois Learner, and (R) party No Name McCain working hand-in-hand to use IRS "financially ruinous" audit targeting of conservative business's. Republican party response- "no biggie."
...And all during this time, the best the republican party could spend all its money on was to push John [no name] McCain, Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney to try to become our president! Meanwhile, (R) party operative, and close family member of the Bush Dynasty, tried to torpedo Trump's 2016 presidential run, knowingly giving Our nation to... Hillary Rodham Clinton.
...And this is all a really, really small sample.... The documented list of crimes that the party has failed to prosecute, or been actively involved in could literally sink a cargo ship.
NOBODY is fixing that party, as long as that party continues to get funding. And as long as corporate interests that want an alternative to bat-shit-crazy leftism do not have a viable, conservative, third-party option to support, and donate funds to, the current corrupt iteration of the republican party will continue to exist as a parasite on conservative voters, and continue to assist in this decades long decline of America.
The republican party is worse than useless, and this country does not have time to allow them to continue to provide false hope in place of real justice, constitutional safeguards, and America First policy. Defund the (R) party. IF it is truly capable of reform, then they can do it on their own time, with their own money, while sitting on the sidelines, while the real warriors take the field. We got a war to win.
I'm aware of your examples. I have been familiar with the John Birch Society critique of both parties since I was a child. So, it is not a matter of educating me about the past.
But according to your analysis, Trump could not have happened---could never have happened---which means there is a fundamental flaw in your theory of doom. Trump got more votes the second time around, the most ever for a sitting President. He is popular in a way I have never seen in my life (and I suspect in your life).
My point was practical. My union was similarly thought to be a permanent creature of the Big Kahuna. It was overthrown. You are confusing a long string of neglect and unconcern and accommodation, with a resistance based on intolerance of the past and hope for the future. So, yes, the Party can be "fixed," so long as you are willing to accept this will mean a political fight to the death between MAGA and RINO. But you don't have much choice. The spirit is there to fight this fight and if you want to stand in the sidelines and watch (and root for whom?), be my guest. There was only one successful third party in this country, and it was the GOP. Third party attempts since then have been pathetic (and I speak as a former member of the Libertarian Party).
Moreover, the fight is mandatory. You simply do not allow the enemy to retain territory, assets, and status.
Anyway, I hear what you are saying. I wish you could hear the voice of experience.
I am not at all confused about the reasoning behind my position, and your assumption is in error.
I will be blunt for the sake of brevity. The republican party was infiltrated, and overthrown by totalitarian aligned operatives (literal nazi collaborators; Prescott Bush vermin, and allied communist operatives; John Brennen and his cia ilk) during the late Cold War era.
The modern historical failures of the republican party ever since the Bush nazi set foot in the Whitehouse is not due to any sort of accidents, neglect, unconcern, nor any other kinds of "oopsies"excuses. The deliberate subversion of our American society has been planned, and is currently being executed by those same forces. They don't need fixing, nor reform- they need trials, nooses, and firing squads. And the (R) party is demonstrably not moving in that direction, nor will they. The options for our republic are limited, and time is short. We missed "go time" decades ago, and the time for strong action is now, or never.
Whoever said any of this was accidental? Were you old enough to see the kind of treatment given to Barry Goldwater? The infiltration began with Eisenhower. Kindly stop with the historical review.
The modern failures are merely the continuation of past failures (e.g., the RINO capture of the Reagan administration).
The Party (by which I mean the 75,000,000 Trump MAGA supporters) is indeed moving in that direction, in the form of vigorous primary challenges to RINO incumbents and candidates. There are all kinds of RINO blandishments in an attempt to blunt this movement, but they are paltry and ineffectual.
Time is short in the sense that matters are urgent, but there is time enough to do what must be done---so long as there is a spirit and a conviction to do it. You have neither. You don't know what to do. You don't have any experience at this. And your goal of destroying the existing Republican party is on a par with "There are burglars and pimps in my house...so I must burn it down and live in the wild." You want an end state, with no idea how to get there. Good luck. The rest of us will welcome you when the smoke clears.
It is called scorched earth strategy, and when needed it works. We are at this point. I keep bringing up history to illustrate how much ground we have lost, inch by inch, mile by mile. Year after year, decade after decade, hoping that our illustrious republican party will finally come through, and defend our constitution.
Instead, we got the top level of republican party establishment, and their media mouthpieces refusing to stand up against flagrant election fraud- 2 years after the fact, and with mountains of evidence to fight with, and that coke-head cocksucker Mitch McConnell as the highest ranking republican politician in DC now calling for extremist anti-constitutional gun prohibition laws.
If you really think that party is worth wasting time trying to save, I don't know what else to tell you, except to brace yourself for the [republican party] treachery you will soon bear witness to after the party is done with Trump's endorsements, and blessings after the mid-term elections. Watch. I hope I am wrong, but don't bet against me.