Why are you defending pornography, which encourages sex trafficking, child trafficking, promotes filthy habits (for both men and women), causes chemical changes in your brain, ruining relationships and future relationships?
Why do you assume we are ok with women banging random dudes or women cheating on their spouses?
Why do you assume the woman any one of us might be with is a cheating whore?
Why do you defend masturbation, as it is what causes that chemical changes I spoke of earlier?
Besides "Trust me, bro.", what kind of resources / sources can you show to prove your point of view?
Besides the Bible, if you want a source about why porn is bad, look up FightTheNewDrug
But it's not commendable, because of what happened. "He's a good guy in a bad situation"
Okay, did he put himself there?
Yes the courts are screwed up. That is not limited to one thing. To say the system is broken, therefore, be screwed up ourselves is no better than saying let's torture and kill those who torture and kill. Are we any better at that point?
Good guys will always get the bad end of the deal until enough good guys do the right thing. You want change, get after it, make a difference. I have no sympathy for internet complainers whose motive and actions make them just as bad as the people they are complaining about.
No, the user (commenter) I was replying to, not Josh Waller.
If A>B and B>C, then A>C, right?
Good family life > Porn / masturbation > Bad marriage
Why stop at b? Why discourage a?
I don't mean to disparage singleness either. Apostle Paul says quite a bit about the blessing of singleness (and it's not watching porn nor masturbating, quite the opposite).
I never disagreed with effed up courts. Look at any topic in our country, the courts are corrupt. You can't fix 1 issue and ignore the rest. Not to say you don't try. Let's say you fix this 1 issue, will the corruption of the court disappear? You're cutting off 1 head of a hydra. It just comes back, worse than before.
If porn goes away after human trafficking is abolished, then so be it.
Reality and history, however, tell us that as long as men and women desire boobs, there always be a sex trade of sorts. Just look at Only Fans and Reddit (if you have the mental fortitude, if not then trust me or someone who does). Those women aren't trafficked. They're just making their own brand of their own free will selling their bodies. It's a byproduct of capitalism. The only difference between a sex worker and blue collar is that blue collar sells their body for much less to keep their clothes on.
Morally speaking, we all need to decide for ourselves. You can't abolish sex work and then turn around and shill for this evil cutthroat economic system. If you really want to end sex work, then help build a system where other labors are more beneficial.
Otherwise stop trying to control other people's lives. That's what faggots do.
What you are saying sounds like it's good, which makes it dangerous. It's called relativism. Relativism itself is contradictory. It states there is no truth (except apparently the idea of relativism itself is exempt from its own statement). I have no desire to control one's life. Call a spade a spade. I say things like they are, I fight for the truth, not my own theories nor ideas. If you want to call me a faggot, do it, I could care less. I'm not here for me. I'm here for the truth.
You are right that we need to decide for ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves about what is right and what is wrong. If someone talked about a separate topic spouting off something wrong, would you keep silent (clearly not, as seen here). People take issue with my comments because of some sort of reason. Do they indulge in porn and fight any guilt with reasoning away the guilt? Do they think porn is not even wrong in the first place? I don't really know, nor care. Porn at the end of the day is evil, wrong, immoral, disgusting, destructive. I don't care that people commonly watch it. People frequently have abortions, is that ok? Obv. no, so how does somebody know what is good or bad? What grounds do you base a moral compass upon? Who can even determine what a good moral compass is? If we can't solve these questions, why do we try to solve the downstream problems? We can't clearly see the solutions when we don't know that the problems are. That's why I come here over patriots.win. It's not even about Q, it's about the truth.
I agree with some of what you are saying, but relativism quickly proves itself wrong when weighed against simple absolutions like the sky is blue, gravity is real and the earth is round. These are basic things you can prove to yourself with a plethora of home experiments and thanks to flat earthers, more home experiments prove round earth more each day.
Where you lost me was comparing porn to abortion. Porn isn't "evil". Yes it can become evil, but in instances where everyone is consenting, it's just sin and degeneracy. I agree we shouldn't call it "good" or "okay" it has its problems. If does have psychological effects, but these aren't apocalyptic and world ending as fundamentalists need it to be.
As for abortion, in the Netherlands it's 100% legal and rarely ever performed. Outside of medical and rape yes I'd rather have none, but the numbers per capita are so low it's astonishing. This is because their society actually provides viable and reasonable alternatives. All the pro life things right wingers virtue signal about they actually do. And that's the other side of the problem. Fundamentalists say they are "pro life" but in practice do fuck all to actually LIVE pro life. Of course that was by design- but anyway, point being, humans are not the evil degenerates the fundamentalists WISH they were. And that's what's most fucked up about it... Christians NEED people to be worse than they are so they're vindicated. And that's why I walked away... Well one of many reasons anyway.
Ummm, what? I have questions.
Why are you defending pornography, which encourages sex trafficking, child trafficking, promotes filthy habits (for both men and women), causes chemical changes in your brain, ruining relationships and future relationships?
Why do you assume we are ok with women banging random dudes or women cheating on their spouses?
Why do you assume the woman any one of us might be with is a cheating whore?
Why do you defend masturbation, as it is what causes that chemical changes I spoke of earlier?
Besides "Trust me, bro.", what kind of resources / sources can you show to prove your point of view?
Besides the Bible, if you want a source about why porn is bad, look up FightTheNewDrug
https://fightthenewdrug.org/
But it's not commendable, because of what happened. "He's a good guy in a bad situation"
Okay, did he put himself there?
Yes the courts are screwed up. That is not limited to one thing. To say the system is broken, therefore, be screwed up ourselves is no better than saying let's torture and kill those who torture and kill. Are we any better at that point?
Good guys will always get the bad end of the deal until enough good guys do the right thing. You want change, get after it, make a difference. I have no sympathy for internet complainers whose motive and actions make them just as bad as the people they are complaining about.
In short, NFG (No Effs Given).
No, the user (commenter) I was replying to, not Josh Waller.
If A>B and B>C, then A>C, right?
Good family life > Porn / masturbation > Bad marriage
Why stop at b? Why discourage a?
I don't mean to disparage singleness either. Apostle Paul says quite a bit about the blessing of singleness (and it's not watching porn nor masturbating, quite the opposite).
I never disagreed with effed up courts. Look at any topic in our country, the courts are corrupt. You can't fix 1 issue and ignore the rest. Not to say you don't try. Let's say you fix this 1 issue, will the corruption of the court disappear? You're cutting off 1 head of a hydra. It just comes back, worse than before.
If porn goes away after human trafficking is abolished, then so be it.
Reality and history, however, tell us that as long as men and women desire boobs, there always be a sex trade of sorts. Just look at Only Fans and Reddit (if you have the mental fortitude, if not then trust me or someone who does). Those women aren't trafficked. They're just making their own brand of their own free will selling their bodies. It's a byproduct of capitalism. The only difference between a sex worker and blue collar is that blue collar sells their body for much less to keep their clothes on.
Morally speaking, we all need to decide for ourselves. You can't abolish sex work and then turn around and shill for this evil cutthroat economic system. If you really want to end sex work, then help build a system where other labors are more beneficial.
Otherwise stop trying to control other people's lives. That's what faggots do.
What you are saying sounds like it's good, which makes it dangerous. It's called relativism. Relativism itself is contradictory. It states there is no truth (except apparently the idea of relativism itself is exempt from its own statement). I have no desire to control one's life. Call a spade a spade. I say things like they are, I fight for the truth, not my own theories nor ideas. If you want to call me a faggot, do it, I could care less. I'm not here for me. I'm here for the truth.
You are right that we need to decide for ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves about what is right and what is wrong. If someone talked about a separate topic spouting off something wrong, would you keep silent (clearly not, as seen here). People take issue with my comments because of some sort of reason. Do they indulge in porn and fight any guilt with reasoning away the guilt? Do they think porn is not even wrong in the first place? I don't really know, nor care. Porn at the end of the day is evil, wrong, immoral, disgusting, destructive. I don't care that people commonly watch it. People frequently have abortions, is that ok? Obv. no, so how does somebody know what is good or bad? What grounds do you base a moral compass upon? Who can even determine what a good moral compass is? If we can't solve these questions, why do we try to solve the downstream problems? We can't clearly see the solutions when we don't know that the problems are. That's why I come here over patriots.win. It's not even about Q, it's about the truth.
I agree with some of what you are saying, but relativism quickly proves itself wrong when weighed against simple absolutions like the sky is blue, gravity is real and the earth is round. These are basic things you can prove to yourself with a plethora of home experiments and thanks to flat earthers, more home experiments prove round earth more each day.
Where you lost me was comparing porn to abortion. Porn isn't "evil". Yes it can become evil, but in instances where everyone is consenting, it's just sin and degeneracy. I agree we shouldn't call it "good" or "okay" it has its problems. If does have psychological effects, but these aren't apocalyptic and world ending as fundamentalists need it to be.
As for abortion, in the Netherlands it's 100% legal and rarely ever performed. Outside of medical and rape yes I'd rather have none, but the numbers per capita are so low it's astonishing. This is because their society actually provides viable and reasonable alternatives. All the pro life things right wingers virtue signal about they actually do. And that's the other side of the problem. Fundamentalists say they are "pro life" but in practice do fuck all to actually LIVE pro life. Of course that was by design- but anyway, point being, humans are not the evil degenerates the fundamentalists WISH they were. And that's what's most fucked up about it... Christians NEED people to be worse than they are so they're vindicated. And that's why I walked away... Well one of many reasons anyway.