u/RealCleanUpPhilly posted this about foreign particles found in the vaccines by Italian scientists:
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JTb7H1oB/study-finds-94-of-vaccine-recipi/c/
I shared this with a scientist friend of mine. He's actually worked with bacteria and viruses, and even worked on developing a vaccine (which was rejected b the FDA).So, he is rather familiar with viruses. Lemme post his comments on the "COVID-19 vaccine":
This is not a real vaccine. The body needs to see the actual virus to have an immune response. The spike proteins are only the mechanism that the virus has to get inside a cell to infect it.
So this so-called "vaccine" is flooding the body with the shit that damages cells, hence the heart problems, blood clots, etc. No immune response, or rather not an adequate response. You need the actual virus. The body builds antibodies based on the virus. Kinda like a negative photograph. The antibodies bind to the virus and render it inactive. Not the stupid spike proteins.
The spike proteins are damaging cells and the body is probably responding to the damaged cells. When a cell gets damaged, the body will destroy the sick or dying cell. So you get a bunch of spike proteins. The target cells get damaged and the body is cleaning up the mess. I am sure there is some sort of immune response, but not adequate to protect against the actual supposed "COVID virus." The immune system is trying to get rid of the spike proteins along with flushing out the damaged cells. Hence myocarditis, blood clots, etc.
The liver is a filter, so its trying to filter out that spike protein. The mRNA from the spike protein is recombining with liver cell DNA. And the liver cells, when they replicate will express these spike proteins on their cell walls. So, the body is replicating spike proteins via the liver cells, but not the virus itself. If the virus was there and active, the body would become a virus-replicating machine. A virus uses spike proteins to gain cell access, take over the cell replication mechanism used to read and replicate the cell DNA by inserting its own DNA or RNA into the mix, the cell then cranks out more virus particles. Then the cell collapses and the viruses go on to other cells and repeat. This stupid spike protein is only damaging the cells that they target. There is no actual virus contained in the "vaccine." So cells get damaged, but not turned into a virus factory and the body does not have the virus to make antibodies. So you will still get sick if exposed to "COVID". There are no antibodies to protect them.
The spike proteins are causing damage to the cardio pulmonary system. Then the liver is trying to filter that junk out and it ends up expressing the damn proteins on its cells walls.
This explains why the clot sots are useless against actual viral immunity, and why people are suffering myocarditis. This doesn't even get into the mRNA function that reprograms one's DNA to give them autoimmune deficiency syndrome, nor the mysterious objects found in the vials like crystalline structures, sharp metallic objects, or creepy squiggly objects moving about. Even ignoring all that scary crap, these injections are a fraud regardless.
It is possible that there may be no real "COVID-19", but this claim that "no viruses exist because someone 100+ years ago thought so" is just something that people cling to because it sounds smart and they are used to being lied to.
The common "flat earth" type of misinformation floating around in our truther movement is that these aren't viruses, but are instead particles from decayed, broken down cells. Viral particles do not come from that. The cells decompose and spill stuff like cytoplasm, various organelles, and cellular membrane particles. One such thing that is sloughed off a gram negative cell is endotoxin. It makes no sense that a viral particle is produced in that manner. To have a protein coat encapsulating either DNA or RNA along with an insertion mechanism at the base of the protein coat. Its designed to insert genetic code. Cells do not package genetic code as they die. Metabolic waste products are wrapped in a kind of membrane and then sent out of the cell for “disposal” but not code.
Bacteria can be seen under a microscope,but an electron microscope is required to see viruses. (Thus masks are good only against bacteria.) My friend has seen viruses with a microscope, and has worked with cow pox virus, which was isolated and cultured with green monkey liver cells. Seen them replicate and attack cells. Scientists can actually manipulate viral particles to become a kind of micro syringe to inject specific code into a cell, and the ramifications of this can be rather disturbing.
I don't want to say which vaccine he worked on since I do not want to give him away, considering who (or what) may be scanning this forum. I'll just make an analogy of the "viruses don't exist" mantra coming from laymen is akin to raging atheists who've never read the Bible spout out about how rotten the book is when they've never actually spent any reasonable amount of time reading it. Viruses exist and the world isn't flat. Is the Queen of England a space lizard from Dimension 13B? Dunno about that one.
I’m with Steve here
I'm downvoting your posts which equate "viruses don't exist" to flat earth and other unrelated topics. You act like the only people saying this are tinfoil hat wearing lunatics, and you are the one disparaging people here for disagreeing with your point of view.
What do you think of Dr Andrew Kaufman? He is the main person who initially claimed that not only does SARS-CoV-2 not exist, but no virus has ever truly been isolated and shown to cause disease. For the past 2 years he has been articulating this claim and backing it up with research and explaining how it has all been a misinterpretation of natural phenomena.
I will say I mentally struggled with this idea at first because I minored in biology in college and accepted the idea of viruses for years. It wasn't until I realized just how programmed people are to go along with whatever an authority figure says without question, that I understood how compromised academia really is.
My position as of now is that IF viruses really do exist, they are all manmade nanoparticles, which would explain the "not quite alive" aspect. I do not accept that any such particle arose naturally and I have not seen any convincing evidence that any such particle is the cause of any disease or can be transmitted from person to person.
Watch bitchute covid 19 virology fraud explained in 19 minutes...so simple...
Germs and bacteria are eaters of dead cell debris ...viruses are dead cell debris that virologists called viruses for some unknown reason.
Put this in a Petri dish poisoned with chemicals the surface proteins morph into spike proteins .....
Simple....
Well-said.
Fren, you get upset with me making that the comparison to virus deniers to flat earthers, yet you mention Dr. Andrew Kaufman, whose website features a video interview with none other than Owen "Muh Jooz" Benjamin, a shit-stirring, anti-Q doofus who constantly insists that the world is flat because... reasons. Benjamin twists Biblical scripture to deceive dimwitted trailer park Christians into believing this stupid Flat Earth garbage.
https://thebigvirushoax.com/dr-andrew-kaufman
Dr. Kaufman is interesting and he does make good points, but he's a molecular biologist pretending to be a virologist. There is a lot he's said that does make sense with and I agree with him, and even my friend who has worked with actual viruses tends to lean towards COVID-19 as not even existing. And I think Dr. Kaufman may be right that the pictures shown on TV are actually exosomes. I have been completely willing to believe that viruses do not exist, and I have sat and listened to a lot of them. But I can see how, in true Michael Moore fashion, they conveniently omit a lot of information and misrepresent stuff. The monkey liver cells used in virus cultures are what keep the viruses alive. Viruses can be seen attacking cells through electron microscopes.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2015/10/131906/3-ways-viruses-have-changed-science-better
You and I may disagree on whether viruses exist, but I'll have you know that even my friend who has worked with viruses and had even developed a vaccine (which was never used though) is inclined to say that not only is it possible that COVID-19 does not exist, but that vaccines in general are wearing out people's immune systems. He never gets flu shots, and subsequently never catches the flu.
Not possible. What is the 100+ years ago statement about? There are more than a dozen doctors, scientists and virologists that PROVE IT this very day. And nothing "sounds smart" about it in the least. It actually "sounds stupid" in relation to our lifetime of medical indoctrination.
Nonetheless, facts are facts. Nobody has ever found a single virus in the real world. They're like unicorns or leprechauns. A lot of historical lore, but a complete lack of evidence in reality.
Nope, it's not POSSIBLE. Want to find out how I know?
And now you want to doubly embarrass yourself? FE is a banned topic here, so it's a cheap shot to throw it around as you try to inflate your uninformed position. And let's be clear, the problem is, on both topics, you are UNIFORMED, or should I say "Misinformed" by the lies and deceptions we're awash in?
You make the cardinal first error in your argument here by ASSUMING that "viral particles" exist in the first place. Do you see your mistake?
And here we see the same mistake again. The FIRST step is to find a viral particle, if such a thing exists. Can we do this? If you think we can, show me the proof of such an achievement.
Do you understand the "culturing" process Steve? I think you don't. If you did, you'd see the obvious deception in full clarity (and it's green monkey KIDNEY cells, not liver). And I'm sure your friend THINKS he has SEEN "viruses". I don't doubt that this is what he believes as this is what his brainwashing education taught him. But is he really seeing "viruses", or perhaps he's just seeing disintegrated monkey kidney particles?
There you go again, exclaiming because you're 100% sure you're right about everything, that this guarantees that you're right about this. A strange way to argue, almost like a defense mechanism of sorts. Let's stick to one topic at a time as that's hard enough.
And you pull the same stunt to close out this non-argument. Weak sauce. Guess what Steve, you're wrong on both counts. Do you want to find out how and why you're wrong or do you prefer staying asleep? I'm happy to educate you. DM me and we'll hash it out. Also, I'm happy to engage with your friend as well. I'm far from a "layman" on this topic.
Let's do this.
OK, let's weigh in here.
My friend: "I've played a key role in medical progress, given input to industry standards, written advisories, published medical papers even as an undergrad, directly worked with viruses and development of vaccines, have seen the ill-effects of vaccines in general, and have clashed with the FDA and called them out for their abhorrent activities."
Morpheus11: "I watch videos on YouTube and I think the Earth is flat. Let me educate you."
Have a nice day.
I've done quite a bit more than that Steve. You've got a DM waiting for you. Let's engage cordially and with respect off the public board as I requested. Name-calling and judgment aren't going to get us anywhere.