Yestday's stickied mod post about the queers is the second time this has happened on this board, so I feel this has to be said. We CANNOT keep pretending like it's "ok" to be any flavor of the rainbow brigade.
Homosexuality and all it's derivatives are morally, socially, and naturally degenerate. Get over it.
We all said years ago that if it was allowed to be openly accepted and legalized they'd eventually come for the children and animals. And look at where we are now.
People demanding open acceptance of "MAPS" and zoophilia "pride" parades in Germany.
I'm not saying that there is no such thing as a conservative gay, that's stupid since they obviously exist. But we cannot allow open acceptance for this kind of thing in the public square. What people do in private is between them and God, but open advertisement and propagation of transsexualism and homosexuality have to become a thing of the past if we're to avoid the level of moral degeneracy we're faced with today in the future.
Furthermore, It seems a lot of people like to conveniently overlook that at it's base, our entire movement is essentially a Christian Nationalist movement where we want ALL nations to turn back to God and become (Insert Nation Name) first. To take care of their own citizens before worrying about everyone else on the planet.
Why do you think Q talks about God and Christian themes, etc. so often in the drops? Why do you think so many of our sides leadership are more or less Christian Nationalists? Trump, Desantis, Orban, and even Putin if you want to count him, all have varying levels of Christian Nationalism in their message. And most of them are pushing that more and more as time goes on.
And I know I'm probably gonna anger some on here, but I don't care anymore. This crap has gone on long enough, and people need to get over themselves. We're not calling for some kind of gay concentration camps. All most of us want is something similiar to what most Slavic Nations have going on, where it's illegal and a felony to advertise homosexuality, transsexualism, etc. in any way, shape, form, or fashion, and public displays of such things are also banned.
And don't even give me the whole "muh free speech" bit. There are just some things that NEED to be banned for the good of society. This is one of them. If you disagree, well then I'm sorry but you're just wrong. This crap HAS to stop if we're to move on and better ourselves as a society.
I've never said there can't be "good gays", but the fact that homosexuality is a sin doesn't change. If you want my actual personal opinion on it, I don't entirely buy into the whole born that way, or all queers were molested theories (though there is a bizarre correlation there that can't be ignored).
I'm of the personal opinion that it's one of two things. Either it's a neurological disorder along the same lines as schizophrenia or bipolarism (in the case of people like yourself), or it's the result of grooming and conditioning in order to be "cool" or "trendy".
In the case of the former, I FIRMLY believe there is a treatment or cure. Not gay conversion therapy or something like that. But some kind of hormone balancer pill, or some similar treatment. Like how Schizophrenia is treated. This is how I explain the existence of "natural gays". It's more or less a birth defect that CAN be treated if allowed. It also explains to me how God and Jesus can save gays, since God and Jesus can perform literal miracles like making the blind see, the lame walk, the deaf hear, etc. Or if you want a more modern take, think of all the cases of people just Miraculously recovering from a fatal condition, usually some terminal cancer, and making a full recover with zero evidence they ever had cancer in the first place. It's something that still baffles doctors to this day, but it happens all the time with evidence to back it up. If God and Jesus can do that, then they can surely fix whatever hormonal imbalance or neurological disorder afflicts homosexuals.
It's actually rather funny how any time someone tries to research the origin of homosexuality and how to "cure it" they immediately et shut down for hate crimes and being a bigot. Almost like there's actually something to this theory and there's probably an easy way to cure it. Just like Ivermectin and HCQ are basically cure alls for 90% of illnesses, but were hidden from the general public for decades.
This is also where I'd categorize most people like Richard Grenell, or the walkaway movement guy whose name I can't spell for the life of me. Normal, gay, good people, but still a sinner who needs help. I'll gladly be friendly with them and do everything I can to lead them to God, but it's up to them to accept him and change.
On the other end of the pole, you have morons who think it's "trendy" to be gay, or trans, or basically anything but straight. So they'll pretend or deceive themselves in order to feel accepted and "cool". Like they're part of the "in group". These people are the literal scum of society in my mind, since they're willing to do anything for attention. I also believe this is where most of the "activist queers" fall when you categorize things. Seems to fit the profile after all. I'd say I'd try to lead these people to God.....but if I'm honest I kind of write most of these people off as being part of the "4-7 percent lost forever". I mean nothing is impossible for God, but I wouldn't place any bets on these freaks changing their ways any time soon.
Either way I stand by what I've said. Homosexuality is a sin, and it's open acceptance can't continue if we're to move past the current moral and social degeneracy we're experiencing. But I believe that there will probably be a method to treat or cure it revealed in the post-cabal world.
Interesting points made in this conversation, on both sides actually. I'm with you, but I can't say I've much faith in the schizophrenia medication. They still hear the voices, but the medication just makes them not care so much. My wife had a friend who had 3 abortions, was committing immigration fraud, and developed a severe case of paranoid delusional schizophrenia. She was put on those meds and she could still hear the voices, but just would laugh about it. I honestly think that schizophrenia is a severe case of demonization.
So we've got our gay fren here. As Jeremiah pointed out, this guy's parents freaked out when he was in the 1st grade, oversexualizing a situation that maybe wasn't a big deal. Most gays don't have fathers, but this guy has a military father. Maybe the authoritarian aspect is a driver, and maybe he was gone from home quite a lot. Too many factors to take into consideration.
As a Christian myself, I think most of us fall into the "it's a choice" mentality while secularists insist that it's genetic (despite the "gay gene" being a myth, but chromosomes are patriarchy anyway, so why should they care about racist science?). There is the indoctrination factor, through molestation and trauma. There is also an environmental factor. There really are chemicals in the water that turn the frickin' frogs gay, and I think we're seeing quite a lot of its result as we continue to poison the environment while those who've taken the bullhorn on environmentalism prattle on about cow farts and eeeeevil carbon dioxide molecules.
I think this guy was traumatized when his parents freaked out. I played doctor with my older sister and she tried to dress me in girl clothing a lot until my mom caught on and stopped it. I didn't know what was going on. I think once when I was a kid, I was swimming with a neighbor boy in the same grade and we sort of pulled out our dicks. Kids just do stuff as they figure things out. Heck, my older sister gave me a hand job when I was in the 4th grade or so. I didn't even know what happened, but I casually mentioned to Mom the next day that we'd taken a shower together and Mom freaked out over it and punished my sister. Parents freak the hell out over crap like this and they really shouldn't. I'd say this guy has given us enough to go on and it seems like his parents gave him a complex.
Hmm plausible. I'm not very much into psychoanalysis so I'll leave that to the armchair experts whoa actually know more than me lol.
My personal beliefs on the topic are a bit more in depth and hard to convey in a few lines of text. I DO believe it's a choice but I also believe it's some kind of disorder, hormone imbalance, or some other kind of "abnormality". It's similar to how someone with a mental addiction has urges and feelings but can choose to resist if they wanted to. But I also believe that such things are often caused by a spiritual influence. Either Divine (Such as the lame man who was born lame so that Jesus could heal him later in life as a miracle to bring Glory to God), or demonic (think like that guy who suffered from seizures in the Bible until Jesus cast the demons out of him).
I take a weird, middle ground that leans towards spiritual when it comes to stuff like this. God made the human body, and it's inner workings are an amazing work of art. But even the slightest of changes can cause abnormalities to emerge. These abnormalities can be something like, a slight hormone imbalance, or a certain nerve cluster doesn't work right, maybe your brain formed slightly off kilter, etc. Sometimes, God designs people to have these abnormalities from the start so he can heal them later as a miracle in order to further his glory and spread his word.
On the other hand, I think a lot of "mental health problems" are actually a manifestation of demonic possession. Yes we can treat them with modern tech, but to actually cure them, you need the power of God. Homosexuality falls under this category as well for me.
I personally know a guy who had cancer that was so bad he had a tumor the size of a Labrador retriever hanging off the entire side of his body and his arm. It was terminal, and he was in the process of dying, when all of a sudden it started shrinking for no reason, and eventually disappeared. To this day, the doctors still don't know how or why it happened, and can only explain it away as an act of God.
I think queers who repent and find Jesus and God are similar to this. God performs a miracle for them and fixes whatever physiological abnormality causes them to have the feelings and thoughts they have towards the same sex/gender.
But because there's so little research on the topic, we don't know exactly what that is that's being fixed.
I'm with you. It sort of is a choice, but there are so many factors. When I was 14, I never thought I'd have married an Asian woman since that didn't really click with me at the time. But what we choose to fixate on with our mind is where our heart follows. Nobody just out of nowhere becomes attracted to disgusting, degenerate, depraved stuff like "2 girls 1 cup." They have made the decision to take baby steps towards that and allow their thoughts to dwell on gross stuff like scat. It doesn't come natural. But outright freaking out over stuff as parents can produce compulsive behavior in children.
My uncle is interesting. I introduced him to Q and we have a lot to talk about. At the same time, I think he is an authoritarian father figure. He remarried with a woman who isn't too many years older than myself, and they had a daughter a year after my wife and I did. We were at my parents' home for a holiday like Christmas or something and their baby daughter became interested in trying to push the buttons on dad's DVD player. My uncle and his wife told her no and pulled her away from it. The baby crawled back over to the DVD player and they were waiting for her to touch it again and then scolded her, gave her a gentle swat on her hand, and the baby started crying.
My wife and I were like, WTF? Just guide her to the behavior you want her to have. Give her an option. Don't just wait for her to screw up and swat her. Babies are just babies. Give them options and distractions because by making it forbidden, now you've just made your kid fixated on touching the DVD player (or whatever situation you may have). I just have a feeling that our gay fren here was traumatized by his parents and they made a mountain out of a mole hill.
As for God's healing, both my parents have experienced that. My dad had broken his arm once upon a time and the bone did not heal right. He couldn't straighten out his arm. Then one night a voice told him to receive his healing and then he woke up and realized that he had regained all mobility in his arm. Mom had breast cancer and was healed, feeling the power of God course through her body like electricity. So yeah, God can do miracles!
Still allot of assumptions and no questions.
I do recall reading about how the word in the original txt of the bible was actually pedophile and later change to homosexual. I think it was quit recent as well. In light of the current environment and the information Q has brought forth I do believe that makes allot of sense. Like DING!
I hear you don’t buy into the “born this way” but like here I am a gay man telling you I was born that way. Here now, right here. I even gave a life perspective.
Now as far as treatments what does the txt say about that? I think OLD school that was not allowed and some how that narrative shifted along with the introduction of the Rockefellers and modern science likely with the blessing of the Catholic Church who played a big role in the txt of the Bible we read today and yesterday. It is my understand they also withheld allot of it.
Also exactly who decides what a neurological disorder or hormone imbalance is? Is it the doctors? The ones who told you to get vaccinated? Or the scientist that said the same thing along with global warming.
And what is with the gay is a sin but god can save us because we are really just retarded. Very contradicting? Do you find that happening allot in life? It’s a side effect of assumptions and outsourcing your thinking. Being un-based.
See I consider the possibility that the fundamentals of what I believe, understand and have been taught are wrong. I question everything from every angle. Now more than ever. We see modern txt that would become historical record being changed in real time. We also see the publics mentality shift in how it understand and responds to what it understands.
These people have been trying to divide us for so long. The plan they are enacting and Gods seems to go so far beyond our understanding of time. It’s so big the way it’s all playing out there is no way and person or groups of persons could plan it.
I’m suggesting that the modern bible not only has been edited but that also the way we understand it has been edited through centuries. As far back as they allow us to know at least.
It’s possible that our inner moral compass is what we need to follow. You know that God given instinct. Maybe he has a different plan for as all and he leads us in different directions for reasons bigger than we understand.
Now these kids that are being convinced there gay or want to be cool. I hate it. It truly pisses me off. It undercuts what the actual real life gays fight for. It’s an embarrassment. Pedophiles seen an opportunity and took over the movement. Like they do everything.
The gays were hijacked and perverted too man not just or woman, men, kids, the election or the black community or the schools or the companies or religion. Bad people are taking advantage of all of us and our ignorance. An ignorance we live in because they round up any information that can benefit us at all then reverse it into reality.
Instead of us having conversations about it we are blasting off assumptions based off narratives that continue to benefit the cabals agenda and pockets AT EACH OTHER and not them.
Though, I could be wrong very wrong. I will admit that. I only know what my experience has taught me.