Actually, the approximate locations of the leaks are in the Bornholm Basin area (mean depth of 140 ft.), closest to the island. The depth is shallow enough for specialised diving operations as well as the use of Remotely Operated Vehicles, (as was the case for the construction of both pipelines).
Here's an underwater map of the Baltic Sea. The island in the lower center is the location of the pipeline leaks are.
It wouldn’t be easy. How do you get a solid firing solution on it? It’s just a pipe. Any noise is gonna be moving randomly inside it. It’s tiny relative to the usual target size of a torpedo. It wouldn’t be as easy as you would think. The active sonar required to detect the pipe in the first place would be dead giveaway. Just to find it accurately, you would have to announce your presence.
It’s possible, but there are likely much easier and more hidden ways of doing it. It would be better to use divers, the pipe only like 250 feet deep there. Using a torpedo is just so overkill, and too obvious. Too many ways it would lead directly back to whoever did it. Divers or some sort of ROV would be my guess.
Targeting what? It’s a tiny pipe. It can’t be tracked passively.
It would be possible to do it with a dropped toro, but it would require active tracking of some sort. Either dipped or dropped.
This would put US Navy active transmissions into the water. It’s as recognizable as a fingerprint.
Potentially would that work? Yes. But it just doesn’t sit right with me. It’s not a game. You don’t just blast active sonar out when doing something like this. It’s not WW2. We aren’t openly blasting Japanese merchants out of the water.
Water is very dense. Sound waves propagate out incredibly long distance. It just doesn’t seem plausible to me that they would risk doing it in such a detectable and identifiable way, when better options exist. Submarine dry deck shelters and divers/seals are on these platforms for a reason.
I could be wrong. Maybe they don’t give a fuck who figures it out. If they really did just fly a P8 over and drop a payload, they are basically saying they want to be caught.
Couldn’t a sub just torpedo it?
Actually, the approximate locations of the leaks are in the Bornholm Basin area (mean depth of 140 ft.), closest to the island. The depth is shallow enough for specialised diving operations as well as the use of Remotely Operated Vehicles, (as was the case for the construction of both pipelines).
Here's an underwater map of the Baltic Sea. The island in the lower center is the location of the pipeline leaks are.
It wouldn’t be easy. How do you get a solid firing solution on it? It’s just a pipe. Any noise is gonna be moving randomly inside it. It’s tiny relative to the usual target size of a torpedo. It wouldn’t be as easy as you would think. The active sonar required to detect the pipe in the first place would be dead giveaway. Just to find it accurately, you would have to announce your presence.
It’s possible, but there are likely much easier and more hidden ways of doing it. It would be better to use divers, the pipe only like 250 feet deep there. Using a torpedo is just so overkill, and too obvious. Too many ways it would lead directly back to whoever did it. Divers or some sort of ROV would be my guess.
Torpedo dropped from an aircraft or helicopter?
Targeting what? It’s a tiny pipe. It can’t be tracked passively.
It would be possible to do it with a dropped toro, but it would require active tracking of some sort. Either dipped or dropped.
This would put US Navy active transmissions into the water. It’s as recognizable as a fingerprint.
Potentially would that work? Yes. But it just doesn’t sit right with me. It’s not a game. You don’t just blast active sonar out when doing something like this. It’s not WW2. We aren’t openly blasting Japanese merchants out of the water.
Water is very dense. Sound waves propagate out incredibly long distance. It just doesn’t seem plausible to me that they would risk doing it in such a detectable and identifiable way, when better options exist. Submarine dry deck shelters and divers/seals are on these platforms for a reason.
I could be wrong. Maybe they don’t give a fuck who figures it out. If they really did just fly a P8 over and drop a payload, they are basically saying they want to be caught.