Idk if I trust Owen's. Don't know if people on here know this, but before she was conservative she was very liberal, like over night change. She was in the process of developing a website database system where people could report others for their "racist" or "microaggressive" comments on social media and dox them. When she debated Blaire White on Dave Ruben's show a few years back, it was brought up and she refused to answer and diverted the conversation elsewhere. I agree with a lot of what she says, but like I said, she changed overnight, she's accused of being a grifter.