A simple explanation of how "The Scientific Method" has changed from Then to Now....
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They exist. I have isolated them and worked with them myself. We keep vials of them in the freezer.
Nonsense. Your vials contain decomposed green monkey kidney particles and other bio-particulates from the FBS or vero cell substitute.
Nobody in the history of science has ever "ISOLATED" a virus, assuming we agree to the standard definition of the word "isolate" - which virologists have deceptively changed to perform their black magic.
Until somebody can actually FIND/SEE/LOCATE a "virus" DIRECTLY in the fluids/tissue of a diseased specimen, there will never be any such feat known as "virus isolation". Because there's no such thing.
You've been fooled AspenHome. And I do realize that's easier to fool you than to convince you that you've (as well as all your colleagues and anybody who truly BELIEVES they work with viruses) been fooled.
I have examined the process virologists use to "isolate" them. What is your process?
They are simple and robust little demons. If we want to make lots of a mammalian virus, we take a tiny pinch of pre-isolated virus from a vial in the freezer or introduce its genes separately via plasmids into a layer of mammalian cells in culture. The pre- made virus will infect the cells, hijack the cells' machinery to replicate itself, and the cell culture medium will begin to load up with new virus particles. For the case when we have transfected the virus genes by way of electroporation or lipid vessicle method, the viral genes express inside the mammalian cell and the new virus will self assemble. When they emerge from the cell they begin infecting other cells and replicate. The cell culture medium then loads up with new virus particles. After all the feeder mammalian cells are dead, we take the loaded medium and freeze aliquots, or if we want a very pure isolate of virus, we use gradient centrifugation, remove the layer containing the pure virus with a pipet, then dialyze the virus particles into a different buffer of choice by way of a semi permeable membrane.
Thank you. However, you say this all comes from a "pre-isolated virus". That is not what I need to see. I need to see that such an object is proven to be causing and spreading sickness in the wild by observing such an object being taken from a sick person and only said object being transferred to another person and then the other person becoming sick with the same symptoms. Then a sample taken from the newly sick person should be shown to contain an amount of the same object that was originally identified.
If this is done with multiple volunteers with various different backgrounds etc. then I can be reasonably sure that this object is what is causing the sickness and not something else that hasn't been observed yet.
So far the only research similar to this that I have found failed. Miserably.
I see what you're asking. As I mentioned, I have never, nor has anyone I know, ever deliberately infected anyone. I can, however, share this bit of information from when I worked on a project tracking Hepatitis C virus quasispecies transmission through the population. Hepatitis C has a high rate of mutation. Every time it replicates, there is a high likelihood that it will pick up a small alteration in its genetic sequence. The group of disparate HepC viruses as a whole with their variances is called quasispecies. When we would sequence and examine the virus isolated from sick patients we would know precisely who infected whom. If the virus was identical between two infected people we knew they were closely involved and if the virus was very different we knew the two people were not involved in the same chain of transmission. The patient record regarding personal history and reported contacts would corroborate our findings.