I saw it multiple times, I believe you guys too. The term “shapeshifters” or “reptilians” or “flat earth” that we saw in various posts here and on other sites.
I will show you how it’s used by the bad guys to strengthen the “conspiracy theorist” label and slow down awakening.
Example:
”Billy Corgan: ‘Shapeshifting Reptilians’ Run The ‘Satanic’ Music Industry”
https://newspunch.com/billy-corgan-shapeshifting-reptilians/
My reaction to it is:
Add “flat earth” to it and you can easily label all inconvenient truth as “conspiracy theory”.
As simple as that.
They could have done it better this way: ‘Shapeshifting Reptilians’ who live on the opposite side of the Flat Earth Run The ‘Satanic’ Music Industry”.
Recall Pelosi saying on video:
We smear somebody with falsehood and all the rest, then you (journalists) print it and we say: The Press has published that (…) - it legitimises what we said, .. etc.
Talking about “shapeshifters” and “reptilians” is a similar tactic but it’s used to strengthen “conspiracy theorist” label.
When do they need to strengthen the “conspiracy theorist” label?
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when the label stops working,
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when people discover that all previous conspiracy theories came out to be a reality,
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when we’re winning awakening the masses.
The deep state has to stick some bullshit they can call later so that people won’t believe it, otherwise the “conspiracy theorist” label will stop working at all.
Think about it as a slider that reflects the % of the truth within the “conspiracy theory” space.
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We prove something was real, we move the slider closer to 100%
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We say that the difference between the conspiracy theory and the reality was 2 years, 6 months and now it’s 2 months.
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We’re destroying the term (a weapon) the C_A has created to prevent awakening.
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They want to move the slider back where it was, closer to 0% so the term (a weapon) can be used again.
It’s NOT about the flat earth or reptilians.
It’s about Awakening.
Everyone who pushes these theories is either unaware or is a shill working for the deep state for money. People who try to justify “we use it to label (them)” are also either unaware or are paid shills who word Kadr to prevent awakening.
When we hear someone like this article and person “witnessing” it (especially famous person) - we have to note it as he isn’t on our side and will betray us. These celebrities are bought to make a contrast between:
- their lies and fake reality they want us to live and believe in,
versus:
- the truth about their pedo perversions, rapes, blackmail and satanic sacrifice.
Once they add something crazy and unreal to the second group - people are more likely to sit in the first box. Be aware of that!
Even if you’re crazy enough to believe that reptilians are real - it’s your choice. But if you really support the Great Awakening - you need to be aware that normies won’t move from the box 1 to box 2 if you add too much for them to accept. Knowing that: avoid flat earth and reptilians terminology here, leave it for yourself for later, if you enjoy it and focus on Great Awakening.
It’s a social engineering, consciously used by the Deep State.
At this stage anyone pushing flat earth and reptilians theories slows down the awakening process, no matter if consciously and intentionally or not.
I’ve made this post quite long and intentionally used the keywords in the title. Some shills will jump in and start calling me names without even reading the whole post. Once you’ve read the whole thing up until here - you understand who can sponsor to push these theories. Let them to reveal themselves, check their posts and their other comments, give your vote to the article and comments. Digital battlefield.
Observation is not a "Scientific Principle"
What relevance does this have to scientifically demonstrating the globe?
I'm still waiting on the "scientific principle".
More "Observations" that have a perfectly rational explanation on a motionless, non-rotating plane.
None I've heard that don't work equally as well on a motionless, non-rotating plane. But you're still dilly-dallying with "observations" and avoiding the scientific principles.
I personally vouch for the guy. And oh, BTW, there's a physics professor trying right this very minute to win the bitcoin. He's already been given a chance and he's trying again today. It's sincere. But he's gonna need a "scientific principle" to upend the FE research, not an "observation" that can be explained in more ways than one.
This just about covers all the methods as why I dislike debating this topic.
Observation is one of the more important parts of the scientific method. Anyway, I mentioned 2 of the main ones that covers a majority of the types of clips that people reference. It's just a matter of application.
Also, the stars rotating around the earth would create 1 pivot point, that this affect is different with different star groupings also at the southern hemisphere goes against that.
Right, but these observation arguments are intractable. No progress can be made. It's your opinion that these observations are only possible on a globe. My opinion is that these observations are equally possible on a plane. And round and round we go. No science involved.
Many flat earthers have done several good videos on what's happening with star observation. It really all comes down to perspective, the limits of human observation.
We hear the same thing all the time in the realm of "well if it's flat why can't I see Mt. Everest from my house"?. Just another example of the multitude of misunderstandings people have and are, what I see as, INSANELY DEFENSIVE of when a new idea is presented to them. I can't see it any other way than some form of insanity/brainwashing. Because why wouldn't someone consider what I'm saying? There is no ill intent. I'm either correct or incorrect, but there's no harm in considering what I'm saying, is there?
The fact of the matter is that the human eye cannot see any further than 3-6 miles. It's literally impossible due to the limits of human perception.
But we've all been led to believe that this is because of "earth curvature". This is the heliocentric explanation. They say this is why we can't see a boat heading out into the ocean after this 3-6 mile distance. But there are now literally THOUSANDS of videos done by hundreds of different people showing them zooming in with powerful camera telephoto lenses right on to the boat that couldn't be seen by the naked eye (when no zoom was used through the camera). This is a repeatable, verifiable SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT that anybody with $1000 or one of these cameras can go do for themselves today. This is IRREFUTABLE PROOF, whether you like to hear that or not.
The most recent video I've seen demonstrates how a guy up in Utah was able to zoom in and see a laser light at night across a lake of over 21 miles. There should be 250 feet of "earth curvature" obstructing his view. But there is actually NONE. He's done dozens of these videos over the years of distances ranges from 5 to 21 miles at different times, different lakes, etc. And he's only one of hundreds that have done the same sort of thing. All of it demonstrates, irrefutable that this is IMPOSSIBLE on a globe with a radius of 3950 miles. IMPOSSIBLE!
We have videos of people zooming in on oil rigs out in the gulf or Mexico that are 13, 15 & 17 miles away from the beach. We have videos of people capturing mountain ranges on perfect times of the year and in ideal atmospheric conditions that are HUNDREDS of miles away. All of this is IMPOSSIBLE on a globe.
Thus, any and all "observations" that you feel can only be explained on a globe are easily dismissed nowadays because the SCIENCE.... THAT WE CAN PERFORM OURSELVES.... proves irrefutably that this isn't the case. As such, there MUST BE another explanation for your observations that works on a non-rotating plane. And many have already been offered.
This ship has already sailed. Several former noisy "globe earthers" have been forced to admit this little gem; "Well at best, you've disproved the radius of the earth is 3950 miles". I haven't heard much of anything from them lately as they ran off with their tails between their legs stating that perhaps the size of the earth is much larger than we've been told. That's a heckuva pointless retreat as GPS and all our maps and space programs would then have to have massive errors in them as well.
The simple fact is this; you, me or anybody else can use modern equipment to zoom in on and SEE objects 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 miles away with the same relative altitude. This is now IRREFUTABLE as there are now thousands of pieces of evidence. It can't be explained away. There are only two options. 1. All these hundreds of people are liars and deceivers. Or 2., they're right. There aren't any other options.
So you're left with this quandry:
You can decide that every single one of these people are liars and have doctored and photoshopped all their photos and videos or lied about the distances to trick their gullible viewers and there's no reason for you to give it another thought because this is the only POSSIBLE explanation. I say this option is a massive cop out but sadly the choice most are still making.
You decide it's a 99% chance they're all liars but just in case you go get your own $1000 camera with this telephoto lens and prove or disprove their claims yourself. Probably 50% of the FE community did just this, setting out to expose these liars, only to find out the people before them who were sharing the videos weren't lying after all (and that's how we have so many examples out there now).
You can ignore all the verifiable scientific evidence, that you yourself could personally confirm, and instead cling to your belief in your observations as being proof positive.
We could argue about "observations" for the rest of time and not get anywhere. I'm interested in provable, repeatable, verifiable science that doesn't come from the overlords (NASA). And ever single bit I can find confirms we live on a non-moving, non-rotating plane. I can't find a single example of any science supporting the globe. So the score is like 500 to 0 right now. Not even close.
So you see, there's nothing to "debate". If you decide all these zoom proofs are produced by hundreds of random liars and deceivers and instead prefer to put your faith in the government and physics professors providing no science sans ASSUMPTIONS being the honest ones, so be it. That's your opinion.
So let's eliminate any notions of observations and debate. If you've got some science that can prove the globe, I'm all ears. Just do me a favor and think it through and do your best to ensure the science you're choosing isn't based on one or more ASSUMPTIONS.
And to close, here's a great video showing like a dozen laser proofs from different people spanning as far as 24 miles. Are they all just a bunch of liars out to trick you for no material benefit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoz9aiNRzU&t=608s
Well, no, that's not a just a perspective effect, in the Northern hemisphere you would see the stars rotating around Polaris, and there's a similar effect around the southern pole, there's not a specific star in that side. If the stars are rotating around a flat plane with height, there's only room for a singular pivot point.
You could also argue that particulates in the atmosphere, things that fog up the view.
Anyway, the next group of points raised I actually listed why that is plausible and consistent, in that laser light is straight in the context of a room, but when scaling up, that light will have a curve in the fluid, as in, if the laser and target were aligned, the extent of that influence could be noted as changes in pressure and humidity impact the density of the fluid.
Similar, with bodies of water, because the water can't be compressed, it can be displaced by pressure creating 'flatter' zones at the surface, in a lower pressure circumstance it won't work the same way.
To the quandary; I don't believe, nor do I need to believe, that they are liars, hell, on the drive when I moved to my new city, it was around 60 miles where the tallest buildings were notable (it was night driving which made better contrast).
That also comes down to thinking in terms of a perfect sphere, which is not the case, I mean, just that there are mountains and valleys should be sufficient to make that argument, so, using these calculators works if you know that the surface being measured aligns with the sphere or if there's divergences.
Unfortunately, the limits of that experimentation mentioned is that it only really serves to demonstrate that the specific segment is 'flatter than expected'
The concessions I'm willing to make on this area are as follows:
NASA and all DS are trying to keep everyone as ignorant as possible, while needing to keep them knowledgeable enough to be useful (or recruited).
Most scientific disciplines have been corrupted and obfuscate things so that conclusions can be guided in desired directions
There are no truly accurate maps in use (only accurate enough to be 'useable')
Well I agree with all your bullet points, but frankly you lost me in the above paragraphs. I've been responding to quite a few people tonight.
Did I share a video with laser measurements with you? I can't recall. If I did, you're saying all these different people just happened to pick areas that are "flatter then normal"? Am I understanding your position correctly?