The only problem with the rape one is that you have very insane women run around and accuse innocent men of rape just to get their abortions. The woman that Jane Roe was based on accused several men of raping her to get her abortion. She admitted she chose "black men" to accuse because she thought'd it get her more sympathy.
The other one is medical. The thing is no hospital is going to force a woman to have a baby if her life is in danger. You don't need an abortion clinic. The doctors that can help you give birth also know how to perform a DC (curettage). There is actually zero reason for abortion clinics to exist at all. Everything they can do can be done at any women's clinic or normal hospital.
Another lie being screamed by leftists right now is "Ectopic pregnancies". They're trying to say that without abortion you can't stop an ectopic pregnancy. Firstly, it's not even a "pregnancy" (misleading name). The embryo implanted in the wrong place and will sadly not survive no matter what. That's a medical emergency. You'd never go to an abortion clinic in the first place. You go straight to the hospital and they attempt to terminate before it kills the women.
Missed miscarriages can happen and the only solution is a D and C (Dilation and curettage) to take out the dead baby. Many women don't want to walk around with a dead child inside them for weeks and choose this option. This is surgical abortion except in this case the child's heart has already stopped.
Any doctor that can deliver a baby in a hospital knows how to do this. If a woman has a missed miscarriage and chooses a D & C the hospital doesn't send her to an abortion clinic. They do the procedure in the hospital.
But rabid leftists keep pushing lies on social media that without abortion women are stuck with ectopics and missed miscarriages and every lie they can think of to try and justify abortion.
The big lie is abortion clinics. They serve no real purpose. Hospitals do all the necessary stuff.
Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics exist for other reasons. The kind they don't want on paper.
I only partially agree with you about rape being a reason for an abortion. People generally know if they have been raped so I would not rule out something like the motning after pill or other prompt way to prevent having the baby.
However, allowing yourself to be pregnant for some months then deciding you were raped in order to get an abortion would be a Nono.
It makes sense that most believe this way, but this is also how they manipulate us. They make us empathize for the percentage of a percentage of a percent and use fear tactics to sway our opinions and slide the point.
Inbreeding taints the gene pool and is a long term degenerative problem to be allowed.
Medical is best described by Catholics and Christians as being "save the mother, but the child may not survive the operation" vs "abort the child to save the mother"
Phrasing and intention does matter.
Rape is a tough one. I don't really get the argument about "having to look at the child of the person who raped you", as adoption is an option. But the adoption system is trash and rife with child trafficking too so...
For me, incest and medical problems are obvious solutions. Rape is just not an easy answer.
But the smallest percentages have this happen to begin with, and policy should not focus directly on the smallest denominations.
Most do.
The only problem with the rape one is that you have very insane women run around and accuse innocent men of rape just to get their abortions. The woman that Jane Roe was based on accused several men of raping her to get her abortion. She admitted she chose "black men" to accuse because she thought'd it get her more sympathy.
The other one is medical. The thing is no hospital is going to force a woman to have a baby if her life is in danger. You don't need an abortion clinic. The doctors that can help you give birth also know how to perform a DC (curettage). There is actually zero reason for abortion clinics to exist at all. Everything they can do can be done at any women's clinic or normal hospital.
Another lie being screamed by leftists right now is "Ectopic pregnancies". They're trying to say that without abortion you can't stop an ectopic pregnancy. Firstly, it's not even a "pregnancy" (misleading name). The embryo implanted in the wrong place and will sadly not survive no matter what. That's a medical emergency. You'd never go to an abortion clinic in the first place. You go straight to the hospital and they attempt to terminate before it kills the women.
Missed miscarriages can happen and the only solution is a D and C (Dilation and curettage) to take out the dead baby. Many women don't want to walk around with a dead child inside them for weeks and choose this option. This is surgical abortion except in this case the child's heart has already stopped.
Any doctor that can deliver a baby in a hospital knows how to do this. If a woman has a missed miscarriage and chooses a D & C the hospital doesn't send her to an abortion clinic. They do the procedure in the hospital.
But rabid leftists keep pushing lies on social media that without abortion women are stuck with ectopics and missed miscarriages and every lie they can think of to try and justify abortion.
The big lie is abortion clinics. They serve no real purpose. Hospitals do all the necessary stuff.
Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics exist for other reasons. The kind they don't want on paper.
Sorry but I disagree on rape. Just because a baby was dropped off at your doorstep unwanted, doesn't give you the right to kill it.
I agree. It is wrong.
I only partially agree with you about rape being a reason for an abortion. People generally know if they have been raped so I would not rule out something like the motning after pill or other prompt way to prevent having the baby.
However, allowing yourself to be pregnant for some months then deciding you were raped in order to get an abortion would be a Nono.
Yes. This.
Many states still allow parental rights to rapists who’ve fathered children with their victims.
Not without prosecuting the offender or everyone will be crying rape or getting some sympathetic Dr to lie for them.
It makes sense that most believe this way, but this is also how they manipulate us. They make us empathize for the percentage of a percentage of a percent and use fear tactics to sway our opinions and slide the point.
Inbreeding taints the gene pool and is a long term degenerative problem to be allowed.
Medical is best described by Catholics and Christians as being "save the mother, but the child may not survive the operation" vs "abort the child to save the mother"
Phrasing and intention does matter.
Rape is a tough one. I don't really get the argument about "having to look at the child of the person who raped you", as adoption is an option. But the adoption system is trash and rife with child trafficking too so...
For me, incest and medical problems are obvious solutions. Rape is just not an easy answer.
But the smallest percentages have this happen to begin with, and policy should not focus directly on the smallest denominations.