JOHN F. KENNEDY
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JFK was human, he said things and acted out others at times.
Ask him about the Bay of Pigs or cheating on his Wife.
Let he without sin, cast the first stone.
Certainly not JFK then huh.
Only Jesus Christ could make the statement you did, and be righteous
Whoa there fella or fellette, I never claimed to be righteous.
But my statements were simple factual reality, why do you think Jesus would be the only 'person' who could point out simple reality?
I've often thought, in retrospect, that the idea of him being a womanizer is suspect. Who leaked that-Secret Service? Or clowns. I've read he had extraordinary back pain and needed nightly pain relief. Yeah, there's probably some truth, but the PTB didn't like him from the get-go. Perhaps he was set up. Dunno, seems like a total psy-op to destroy his legacy and the truth
Think about all the lies they’ve spun about DJT, and then take another look at JFK. They hated him as much as they hate Trump. We have to just figure nothing they say about anybody they’re trying to get rid of is going to be truth. God knows, and He’s the only Righteous Judge.
The Bay of Pigs is a typical covert mechanism of sabotaging another country when they displease the US. I am fairly certain there are dozens or possibly hundreds of operations like this that have succeeded. They are commonly called "conspiracy theories" when they succeed and we even hear about them; and when they fail, a scapegoat is selected and sacrificed. After this failure, the media was probably targeted for subversion through operations like Mockingbird. This is probably the reason that we were not aware that the Gulf of Tonkin attack never happened. It was a pure fabrication to get official military action started in Vietnam. As far as JFK being unfaithful to his wife, I am fairly certain that this was not as uncommon as we are led to believe. While I do not condone JFK's actions, would you have turned down Marilyn Monroe? I know I wouldn't, but then again I am not the President and I am not married.
The Gulf of Tonkin attack did occur, perhaps not quite as advertised but yes the North Vietnamese boats did attack the Maddox, although LBJ lied about the second attack 2 days later on the 4th. Yeah the Maddox was collecting data, but she was in International waters. The North Vietnamese were wanting to fight because we had been assisting the South Vietnamese with operations on land and now some of that was being done offshore. The Maddox was collecting Intel data for use by the South - locating radars and navigation aids and cataloguing shipping for instance.
But yeah LBJ did lie, the Maddox was attacked once, not twice. She had noticed North Vietnamese boats tracking her and allowed them to chase her off, then 2 days later she resumed her patrol closer to the coast, in international waters but just offshore of the North. The Maddox again detected patrol boats stalking her, and was released to fire warning shots if they approached. They did approach and the warning shots were fired, however the warning shots prompted the boats to attack, not retreat.
The Maddox then fled out to sea while the Navy flew in to provide air cover, as the Maddox evaded the torpedo fired at her the planes did wreck some North Vietnamese boats. That attack happened, in international waters.
But Johnson lied about the second attack, the Maddox and a second destroyer the Turner Joy were spoofed by their own radar and sonar equipment and inexperienced operators, false returns in bad weather made them think they were under attack but they were shooting at ghosts. Navy pilots flying cover saw no enemy vessels, they existed on the two ships' screens only.
So the attack was real but also was false - typical LBJ sleight-of-hand.
Johnson had a bad habit of lying and using American forces as cannon fodder to push his political agendas, much like FDR did. LBJ lied about the U,S.S. Liberty too- he knew he sent that ship into a War Exclusion zone after promising the Israelis he would not do so. Worse, after she came under attack the Israelis asked him again and he lied again, saying she was not our ship.
I think this was the main reason he didn't run for POTUS in '67.
Your information is correct, however the Maddox was not attacked without provocation. The warning shot they fired was considered an attack. Only then did the patrol boats return fire. This is not an attack, but a defensive response. The wording does matter. The same wordplay can be used to change the concept of self defense into an attack. The gun/torpedo boats did not pose a significant risk to the destroyer because of their inferior torpedoes. My best friend was in the Navy at the time of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Although he was not there, one of his best friends from the same town in Pennsylvania was aboard the Ticonderoga as a radar tech ET. He has a letter from him that explained the whole situation in the initial confrontation and the subsequent "attack" 2 days later. The OS's detected ghost images on the radar screen of the repeater, however the aircraft providing overwatch verified that there was no targets. Weapons were engaged, but no targets were hit, because there were none. There was no confusion aboard the carrier or on the destroyers, they knew it was a false alarm. The "attacks" by the North Vietnamese never happened. 3 torpedo gun boats were no match at all against an aircraft carrier and two destroyers, everyone knew it and the gun/torpedo boats did not attack until they were fired at. They responded in desperate self defense, even though they knew that they had no chance.
Provocations are present daily throughout the world, look at 'us' right now with Russia and NATO or with the cartels or our own borders.
The Maddox had to evade a torpedo fired at it in international waters by the patrol boats, that 'was' a mortal threat and an act of war wasn't it? The patrol boats knew those were warning shots, or would if they followed international maritime laws.
There are maritime rulez and the patrol boats were warned off using guard frequencies, they kept bearing on Maddox in an attack profile and did continue coming after warning shots were lawfully fired. Yeah they returned fire in the sense that a warning shot had been fired by Maddox but the warning shot was preceded by lawful instructions on all the applicable maritime and emergency frequencies.
We can drain a lot of beer deciding who provoked who the mostest or firstest or bestest but the attack by the patrol boats did constitute an act of war. The claimed second attack doesn't matter at that point.