You are definitively wrong. Ive got 19 first graders and I can certainly sort them by IQ and nothing else if I had to. I can tell you where each one of them will be on their High school GPA, assuming their effort is all the same.
.iQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized.
"IQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized."
I find it useful to think of IQ as a rubberband. It's plastic enough to be stretched or compressed up or down within a fairly narrow spectrum, but it will break when stretched beyond its capacity.
Diet, such as one rich in iodine, for instance, is known to add up to a full standard deviation to an individual's IQ. Folate when ingested by a pregnant mother is also proven to be beneficial to the unborn child's IQ, as is a diet high in Omega 3 acids from fish.
Intellectual stimulation in early childhood can also increase a child's IQ, which is probably why public schools are so horrible today.
My point being that yes, IQ is absolutely genetic but the expression can be stifled or enhanced by outside factors, which is why we need to do everything we can as a society to help the lower end of the bell curve so we don't descend into complete idiocracy (almost there now).
Children have a million questions about the world every day (they're new around here) but if all they're met with is exhausted parents coming home after a long work day, they will never be stimulated sufficiently to develop their full intellectual potential early on, which shows up in an IQ test.
Very true. I always scored among the top 5 or so (among 300-400 classmates in my grade level) on Iowa Test of Basic Skills, typically at least 5 or 6 grade levels above my grade at the time. I had classmates who could barely read a sentence -- as in - they - read - one - word at - a - time, and they typically paused at multiple-syllable words to "sound them out." That was very frustrating for me, as in my mind we had been exposed to the same learning opportunities, but they apparently chose not to take advantage of them. Of course, for those of low IQ there WAS no choice. But for many of average intelligence, they DID have the mental capacity to learn more but chose ignorance instead. One example is the fact that ebonics still run rampant in public schools. We all looked at the same chalkboard, and while a fair percentage of my black classmates learned how to read, write and speak English right along with me and other white, yellow and brown students, many others came out of those halls reading ( I guess), writing (maybe) and thinking in ebonics. I couldn't imagine being a teacher these days - the hopelessly unintelligent, the wilfully ignorant, the kids with no support or guidance at home and the obstinate, disrespectful, verbally abusive and often violent youth of today would seem to render educating those of moderate to high intelligence extremely difficult.
Hats off to you and the true, sane, non-indoctrinating (actual) teachers! For what it's worth, two of my teachers were mentors to me. One was a woman, my 6th grade teacher, and one was a man, my high school world history teacher. I stayed in touch with the former into my 20's and the latter until my late 50's - and it was his death that ended our lifelong friendship. There were a couple of teachers that I disliked, but for the most part I liked and respected them!
Before the 60s black families were treated pretty bad.
One thing that many misunderstand about black families back then.
Those families were strong. They had to be.
They stayed strong until the Democrats started to "help" them
Agreed. My best friend in 4th-6th grade was black, in a family with 6 kids. Their dad was with the family, with a railroad job while their mom was the homemaker. We used to spend the night at each others' homes, and when I went to his place (in "the projects", on the east side of town across the tracks in Southeastern Washington) we'd often go to the drive-in, in their station wagon. They were making it work.
A year or two after 6th grade, we were still friends but had started hanging out more with others. His dad was killed - I never heard why - and maybe a year later his younger brother was killed.
We reconnected several times before and just after I got married at age 20. He later brought his family (wife, stepdaughter and son) to San Diego where my wife and I had moved, built a family and founded our business. He was a career Navy guy, but was struggling with alcoholism. Over a few months there, he confided that the Navy was giving him experimental treatments for alcoholism. At one point, he confided that he was "afraid of what they were gonna do to him." Within two weeks, he was dead. The story was that he had fallen down the stairs . . . His wife found him, so I guess that was at least part of the truth. Very sad.
I don't know how this relates to "the system", but they started strong - that was my point.
You are definitively wrong. Ive got 19 first graders and I can certainly sort them by IQ and nothing else if I had to. I can tell you where each one of them will be on their High school GPA, assuming their effort is all the same. .iQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized.
"IQ is very real and there from birth and cant be grown or decreased or taught or culturalized."
I find it useful to think of IQ as a rubberband. It's plastic enough to be stretched or compressed up or down within a fairly narrow spectrum, but it will break when stretched beyond its capacity.
Diet, such as one rich in iodine, for instance, is known to add up to a full standard deviation to an individual's IQ. Folate when ingested by a pregnant mother is also proven to be beneficial to the unborn child's IQ, as is a diet high in Omega 3 acids from fish.
Intellectual stimulation in early childhood can also increase a child's IQ, which is probably why public schools are so horrible today.
My point being that yes, IQ is absolutely genetic but the expression can be stifled or enhanced by outside factors, which is why we need to do everything we can as a society to help the lower end of the bell curve so we don't descend into complete idiocracy (almost there now).
Absolutely.
Children have a million questions about the world every day (they're new around here) but if all they're met with is exhausted parents coming home after a long work day, they will never be stimulated sufficiently to develop their full intellectual potential early on, which shows up in an IQ test.
Very true. I always scored among the top 5 or so (among 300-400 classmates in my grade level) on Iowa Test of Basic Skills, typically at least 5 or 6 grade levels above my grade at the time. I had classmates who could barely read a sentence -- as in - they - read - one - word at - a - time, and they typically paused at multiple-syllable words to "sound them out." That was very frustrating for me, as in my mind we had been exposed to the same learning opportunities, but they apparently chose not to take advantage of them. Of course, for those of low IQ there WAS no choice. But for many of average intelligence, they DID have the mental capacity to learn more but chose ignorance instead. One example is the fact that ebonics still run rampant in public schools. We all looked at the same chalkboard, and while a fair percentage of my black classmates learned how to read, write and speak English right along with me and other white, yellow and brown students, many others came out of those halls reading ( I guess), writing (maybe) and thinking in ebonics. I couldn't imagine being a teacher these days - the hopelessly unintelligent, the wilfully ignorant, the kids with no support or guidance at home and the obstinate, disrespectful, verbally abusive and often violent youth of today would seem to render educating those of moderate to high intelligence extremely difficult.
Hats off to you and the true, sane, non-indoctrinating (actual) teachers! For what it's worth, two of my teachers were mentors to me. One was a woman, my 6th grade teacher, and one was a man, my high school world history teacher. I stayed in touch with the former into my 20's and the latter until my late 50's - and it was his death that ended our lifelong friendship. There were a couple of teachers that I disliked, but for the most part I liked and respected them!
Before the 60s black families were treated pretty bad. One thing that many misunderstand about black families back then. Those families were strong. They had to be. They stayed strong until the Democrats started to "help" them
(Of course there are exceptions to the rule)
Agreed. My best friend in 4th-6th grade was black, in a family with 6 kids. Their dad was with the family, with a railroad job while their mom was the homemaker. We used to spend the night at each others' homes, and when I went to his place (in "the projects", on the east side of town across the tracks in Southeastern Washington) we'd often go to the drive-in, in their station wagon. They were making it work.
A year or two after 6th grade, we were still friends but had started hanging out more with others. His dad was killed - I never heard why - and maybe a year later his younger brother was killed.
We reconnected several times before and just after I got married at age 20. He later brought his family (wife, stepdaughter and son) to San Diego where my wife and I had moved, built a family and founded our business. He was a career Navy guy, but was struggling with alcoholism. Over a few months there, he confided that the Navy was giving him experimental treatments for alcoholism. At one point, he confided that he was "afraid of what they were gonna do to him." Within two weeks, he was dead. The story was that he had fallen down the stairs . . . His wife found him, so I guess that was at least part of the truth. Very sad.
I don't know how this relates to "the system", but they started strong - that was my point.
My wife taught special ed. So I can tell you that I understand what you are saying.
She has seen many kids change after receiving one vaccine or another. How many of these "vaccines" screw around with kids heads almost from birth?
Wouldn't exposure to lead (lead poisonings) lower IQs?
Well its been mentioned inpsych text books, and other poisons within the ground of housing areas