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– user2827 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It did, but the point remains that they are attempting to keep everything material, even where it doesn't make sense.

It's worth noting that there are only a select number of "acceptable" interpretations of the experimental data, the most common being the Copenhagen interpretation (matter exists as a waveform potential until being observed) or the 'many worlds' (a multiverse where at every observation every possible 'collapse' of the waveform will occur in its own universe).

It's not an acceptable view to expand Copenhagen to the universal scale, which would have the implication that without an 'observer' to collapse the waveform that the universe could not exist except as the waveform potential. Similarly, it is objectionable to suggest that the universe IS energy and the material world is simply the illusion created by the interaction of all these energetic fields.

As for string theory, it's best to think of that in terms of a purely mathematically abstracted model where they are trying to fit equations to observations, it gets so convoluted that it requires dozens of different 'dimensions' of 'space-time' to get the strings and super-strings to show up in the math in a way that is consistent with experimental observations, all in the attempt to create a "big TOE (theory of Everything)" that can reconcile quantum mechanics with special relativity. Einsteins relativity is a theory that is AT BEST incomplete if not false model. Even with the observations of the universe, relativistic models only accommodate about 5% of the known universe, and has since required the addition of 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' (matter and energy that do not interact with the EM spectrum) to try and force the universe into the model.

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– RandoMando2A 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The God of the Bible is not effected by time, space, or matter. If He’s affected by time, space, or matter He’s not God. Time, space, and matter is what we call a continuum all three have to come into existence at the same instant. If there were matter but no space where would you put it? If there were matter and space but no time when would you put it? You cannot have time, space, or matter independently they have to come into existence simultaneously. The Bible answers that in ten words. In the beginning (there’s time) God created the heavens (there’s space) and the earth (there’s matter). So you have time, space, and matter a trinity of trinities. Time (past, present, future) Space (height, width, depth) Matter (solid, liquid, gas). A trinity of trinities all created instantaneously and the God who created them has to be outside of them. If He’s limited by time He’s not God. The creator of your computer is not in the computer. He’s not running around in there changing the numbers on the screen. The God that created this universe is outside of the universe. He’s above it, beyond it, in it, through it, He’s unaffected by it. If the concept that a spiritual force cannot have any affect on a material body then you have to explain emotions like love and hatred and envy and jealousy and rationality. I mean if your brain is just a random collection of chemicals formed by chance over billions of years then how on earth can you trust your own reasoning processes and the thoughts that you think? The God I worship is not limited by time, space, or matter. If I could fit the unlimited God in my 3lb brain He would not be worth worshiping. - Pastor Patrick when asked where does God come from and how does an immaterial spirit affect physical matter. (Searchable)

As you can tell those are not my words but I whole heartedly agree with them. In addition I would add that the Bible is the preconditioning for the manifestation of truth. We would not know truth without it. It is infinite in its wisdom. The Bible explains everything and does it on every scale from the simplest of concepts to the most specialized details of any subject and does in with language that can be grasped by all. After all, it is the spoken word of God divinely recorded by man. Every day more and more discoveries are made in all fields of science that merge with the existence of a creator God. Biology, physics, archeology, etc. Do yourself a favor and learn how transcription works in DNA. Anyone who understands the complexity and exacting multilayered nature of that process cannot possibly believe in evolution without being intellectually dishonest. Listen up, NORMAL ain’t coming back but Jesus is. Get ready or be left behind. The choice is yours. Choose wisely. Your life. The real one. The everlasting spiritual one. Depends on it. Energy is merely transformed not deleted. An eternity of love and peace and adventure awaits you with Jesus should you choose. Unless you happen to be a lake of fire kind of guy, just know it was your choice that sent you there. John 3:16

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– user2827 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is not inconsistent, that's why my earliest interpretation of quantum physics was that where it had the implication that consciousness had to precede the universe because without an "observer" there would be nothing to turn the "waveform potential" of the universe.

I tend to believe that God would find elegant solutions, and that while the universe tends towards entropy, that life itself is a force of extropy (turning the random into more structured).

Now, you bring up the topics of time, space, and matter.

Believe it or not, the best answers as to what time is are philosophical in what amounts to "time is what stops everything from happening at once" to something akin to the cycles like make a clock work.

Space is typically defined as something akin to emptiness or a vacuum, IIRC, the bible describes it as "waters".

And matter is what the discussion is; and while this may seem a scientific question has philosophical implications as well. As mentioned above, with quantum physics the descriptions were made of a "wave-particle duality" and while I liked that description because of the implications, I've come to prefer that there is no duality.

I've come to find the electrostatic universe theory to come to more elegant solutions, if everything is energy, then it's just a matter of frequencies on the EM spectrum interacting... well, that could still cover many examples in what's already a lengthy response.

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