Yes indeed, agreed across the board on all counts. Yes, Rumi came up through the Sufi tradition. He was a very wise individual as evidenced by the quote.
I would put forth to you that all this is pointing to the "Witness for God" idea in biblical scripture. While there are zillions of different ways to interpret this idea, I believe it implies taking the position of a "Neutral observer" in life. In other words, stepping outside of JUDGMENT, which is, in effect NOT "eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, as this is the very definition of JUDGMENT --- assigning a positive/negative charge to a person, place, thing, event, etc. An act that BINDS us to the material realm.
Thus, to "witness" is to look on to a person, place, thing while reserving one's judgment.
Whadaya think? Not a popular idea in mainstream circles I realize...
Vengeance (and Judgement) is Mine, sayeth The Lord. (Romans)
Do not say 'I am too young.' You will go wherever I send you, and say whatever I tell you to say. (Jeremiah)
To God, we are made in His image and we are well loved by Him. But we are not Him, and should not presume to take His role, or think that we understand what He understands. We are more than we think. And I suspect much more. Yet still we are not God.
Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
In all things, have no preference. - Musashi-san, Dokkodo
The singular question that resolves all paradoxes has been posed to mankind through antiquity and even into the modern day. From the Halls of Amenti of Egypt in the inner temple, to the outer walls of the Temple at Delphi, and even referenced in the movie "The Matrix".
We are a species with amnesia, so I know my answer to that, from the perspective of where I am in my life, but I also know that I do not know the whole answer, or perhaps even the "real answer". Or how often I have done this before (Samsara), or how often we have done this before.
It is possible that we're on a 12,000 year clock (finishing soon!) and every 12,000 years we "reset" (and not in a gentle way).
Hahaha, I have seen that movie and loved it! Stopped watching movies in 2014 when I realized they are tools of our brainwashing and indoctrination!
And yes, we are indeed a species with amnesia. Better said, I would suggest, that we are entirely ASLEEP!!
Did God ever wake Adam up or do we just assume so?
If not, that sure would make for one heckuva GREAT AWAKENING, no?
As to "who you are". Consider this idea; you won't ever find the answer in a thought, in your mind. As mind/thought is "The Matrix" itself (My ATF movie BTW). One must exit the matrix to see reality for what it is.
The question "Who am I" does not have a corollary answer. A conundrum I realize.
The answer to the question is wholly EXPERIENTIAL in nature, spurned by desire, eventually delivered by grace alone. You and I can't "Make it happen". It requires both a great desire to know coupled with a tremendous act of humility (I do not know and cannot know {in my thoughts}). This is the oft-spoken of and tremendously misunderstood act of "Surrender", which is the essential requirement to arrive at the answer to the question itself.
Deep stuff. BIG ideas. Head spinning....hahaha... like a square jab to the nose from Tommy! :)
Yes indeed, agreed across the board on all counts. Yes, Rumi came up through the Sufi tradition. He was a very wise individual as evidenced by the quote.
I would put forth to you that all this is pointing to the "Witness for God" idea in biblical scripture. While there are zillions of different ways to interpret this idea, I believe it implies taking the position of a "Neutral observer" in life. In other words, stepping outside of JUDGMENT, which is, in effect NOT "eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, as this is the very definition of JUDGMENT --- assigning a positive/negative charge to a person, place, thing, event, etc. An act that BINDS us to the material realm.
Thus, to "witness" is to look on to a person, place, thing while reserving one's judgment.
Whadaya think? Not a popular idea in mainstream circles I realize...
Judge not, lest ye be judged. (Matthew)
Vengeance (and Judgement) is Mine, sayeth The Lord. (Romans)
Do not say 'I am too young.' You will go wherever I send you, and say whatever I tell you to say. (Jeremiah)
To God, we are made in His image and we are well loved by Him. But we are not Him, and should not presume to take His role, or think that we understand what He understands. We are more than we think. And I suspect much more. Yet still we are not God.
Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
In all things, have no preference. - Musashi-san, Dokkodo
Excellent Mahvelous Marvin, most excellent!
The singular question that resolves all paradoxes has been posed to mankind through antiquity and even into the modern day. From the Halls of Amenti of Egypt in the inner temple, to the outer walls of the Temple at Delphi, and even referenced in the movie "The Matrix".
Temet Nosce? -> Who/What am I?
We are a species with amnesia, so I know my answer to that, from the perspective of where I am in my life, but I also know that I do not know the whole answer, or perhaps even the "real answer". Or how often I have done this before (Samsara), or how often we have done this before.
It is possible that we're on a 12,000 year clock (finishing soon!) and every 12,000 years we "reset" (and not in a gentle way).
"It's Groundhog Day.... again."
Hahaha, I have seen that movie and loved it! Stopped watching movies in 2014 when I realized they are tools of our brainwashing and indoctrination!
And yes, we are indeed a species with amnesia. Better said, I would suggest, that we are entirely ASLEEP!!
Did God ever wake Adam up or do we just assume so?
If not, that sure would make for one heckuva GREAT AWAKENING, no?
As to "who you are". Consider this idea; you won't ever find the answer in a thought, in your mind. As mind/thought is "The Matrix" itself (My ATF movie BTW). One must exit the matrix to see reality for what it is.
The question "Who am I" does not have a corollary answer. A conundrum I realize.
The answer to the question is wholly EXPERIENTIAL in nature, spurned by desire, eventually delivered by grace alone. You and I can't "Make it happen". It requires both a great desire to know coupled with a tremendous act of humility (I do not know and cannot know {in my thoughts}). This is the oft-spoken of and tremendously misunderstood act of "Surrender", which is the essential requirement to arrive at the answer to the question itself.
Deep stuff. BIG ideas. Head spinning....hahaha... like a square jab to the nose from Tommy! :)