When any user of this site makes a post the caption at the top of the box says "Avoid dooming . . ."
Almost every thread on GAW somebody post their subjective opinion that undercuts the message of the original post.
Yesterday I replied to a doomer with this: "If you don't have anything positive to say, or don't have a solution, please don't post!"
In response to this I received crazy replies that had NO logical connection to my post.
I have to ask how many Q followers have anything close to a classical education? Emotion is NOT going to win any debate
Please take a little time and do some self-improvement. There is an obscure branch of philosophy called "LOGIC:" Democrats, Liberals, and Communists don't want you to learn this because you will laugh at them to their face in response to 95% of what comes out of their mouth if you had any critical analysis training
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/logical-fallacies/ <-- here is a free introduction to fallacies
Critical analysis is how people get "Red Pilled"
This message board is a microcosm of why the Kingdom of God is NOT a democracy.
Seriously - it's like orcs and goblins and we are all supposed to be on the same side
POST EDIT: Nothing in original post has been changed. I'm adding below After reading some replies I do acknowledge I could have been more careful in choice of words and a few comments at the bottom are actually self-defeating to the point I am trying to make. (I did not adhere to what I learned in college about persuasive writing)
I have come to the conclusion that American Education and liberals have decimated our ability to focus on what people say and instead use fallacies and lies to tear apart the comment and cast dispersions on the author.
Democrats use lack of reading comprehension and ignorance of fallacies to lead their sheep around by the nose.
Yes, I am an asshole (but an honest asshole) My ego is NOT involved in this. I care about America and the US Constitution. protecting and upholding these are the ONLY thing I care about.
Assuming we are all MAGA, the replies to this thread and the tangents of the replies should be seen as an indictment of both US public education and our inability to NOT sow dissention.
I sincerely care about the welfare of Every American and want to see us all receive the fullness of God's intent for our lives
Here is a speculative thought after replying to Sir Rupert - maybe the focus should be on reading comprehension The past 20 years or so conservatives have been forced to qualify almost every statement they make to include specifically what they didn't mean (liberals twist everything to make an accusation) It seems that many on this site interpret what they read by their emotional response to it what they read instead of reading what was said literally?
On topic: Wow! What an asshole!
But actually about your topic, I find it very difficult to believe "dooming" (which is a really stupifying way of describing the discouraged) causes any harm to this board... Except for one thing:. It prevents meaningful debate.
If I can't describe why something is unlikely or damn near impossible to occur without getting hit with the doomer tag, or worse, banned, then how can you even debate a topic?
Correct! You can't!
So if you want an echo chamber where only minor quibbles arise and everyone is in lockstep, congratulations reddit 2.0, you've really made the grade!
The mods should improve their discernment between real dooming like “The Plan will never work” versus realistic appraisals of negative events like “the commies are going to steal the GA Senate runoff, again.” Labeling it all as dooming stifles debate, like you said. By admitting the seeming doom of the GA situation, we can take the debate further, such as the idea that The Plan doesn’t require the Senate.
Somebody gets it
i do agree, the 40000 ft view is crucial in an info war, and we're getting hit with shills for sure, but i am also guilty of venting here sometimes, mostly because im shadowbanned and suspended everywhere else, i've got a bachelors in software engineering since you asked
Define "educated" I have a B.S. but that is no indication of my intelligence. Some of the dumbest people on this planet have masters degrees and are ignorant of the real world because they never left the education system. They spend decades memorizing textbooks and then go on to spend the rest of their lives teaching students how to memorize textbooks. They repeat what they are told to repeat and they teach what they are told to teach. For them, Educated means obedient
I think by “educated” OP doesn’t necessarily mean formal, credentialed education. I think he just means “knowledgeable of the protocols of debate, and of rhetorical fallacies and why they shouldn’t be used.”
I believe a lot of the people are lazy and are just happy to accept what the liberal media tell them. This will cause them untold grief in the long run. Then we have TRUTH SEEKERS. We are determined to get to the TRUTH OURSELVES not rely on propaganda. Remember what Hitler’s propaganda minister, Joseph Goebells said.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
But, people forget the second part to that quote.
The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.
We are seeing that played out today on the liberal msm and social media. And what do they do? They call us terrorists etc. Elon Musk is a perfect example of the lefts insanity and what they are doing to him. But!!! The TRUTH is being revealed.
I agree with you. I made a post last week, and I don’t mind that it got few upvotes, because the content was supposed to be challenging rather than popular. It got comments from three people. The first two were topical and thoughtful. The third instantly resorted to ad hominem against me. It could be that he’s a commie mole, or he could be an otherwise ok person who was misled by his own ego preservation into lashing out at someone who noticed the shortcomings of people like him. Also, some people are just unnecessary contrarians, looking for stupid disagreements so they can demonstrate how much of a clever boy they are.
I think there are many, many commie moles on GAW. Their refined MO is to spend 99% of their comments on building a personal track record by echoing empty platitudes and cheerleading Ra Ra MAGA. Then when they lose the handshake and have some people recognizing their handle as a “patriot”, they look for opportunities to attack real patriots who scare the commie system.
Don’t underestimate the number of commie moles trying to undermine patriotic ideas. Because communism is illogical and farcical, its apologists are forced to use illogical and fallacious debate “techniques” to try to defend it. It makes them easy to sniff out.
Just smarter.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and step back. I'm not going to hate on 'boomers' and i'm not going to hate on OP or anyone who shares the opinion. But everyone, we have to face the facts that we're all human and human beings have emotions - convenient or not. Emotions need to be dealt with or they become toxic.
The reason you don't like doomers is because of the emotional reaction it stimulates in you. The way to combat dooming is not to hate on dooming or call them shills. It's through mutual support. That is part of what this board is supposed to be about.
Maybe we need to talk each other down with reason, or sometimes just give some healthy encouragement. But hating on 'doomers' is just as toxic as the dooming itself.
This fight is difficult because it's so abstracted. For many of us the fight is virtual but the consequences are tangible. That is a mind f*ck.
If you see a negative post it produces a negative emotion, that's a sign that you need to step back for a moment. If you have some serious doubts and want to air your frustrations, take a moment to order your thoughts and present your doubts with a little thought and balance. No one doom or anti-doom should be making quick emotional posts.
This is a difficult fight, psychologically. Everyone is feeling it. We're all in the same boat together because we're the ones who can see. It's a blessing and a curse. Basically all we have is each other. So let's not tear each other apart. WWG1WGA! Remember what that means.
I'm here for the long haul. Come what may. If you're ready to stand with us or you need to step back and take a break, I'm still on your side. In the end we all want freedom. If we don't give up, we win. We're strong together, united. God bless you all.
In a sea of tweets and emotionally baiting headlines, it was good to read this post and take a moment to think.
I think commies and marxist types are 'fuck around with ideas' people, not 'Take Care of Business' people... The TCB types ought to be the ones in charge... Sadly, we're in a time where this got upside down... I believe there is a place for fucking around with ideas, but it isn't the job of The State. Are GAW folk TCB types? Many are, I'm sure.
Avoid dooming is not a subjective statement, And, your response is proof positive of my statements above - your response has zero correlation to anything I said in my original post.
My post is all about doomers, what is your reply about? totally different subject
Next day POST EDIT: the fact that this received 2 downvotes is more proof how emotional some of us are, Emotional reactions are usually illogical reactions. You want to MAGA, you have to be smarter than the enemy, not be controlled by emotional manipulation
Aim energy in the best dirwxtion . Positive is better than negative. That is my experience.