Unfortunately, I'm among those parents who will be spending the holidays alone because of my conservative beliefs. Praying for a Christmas miracle of the restoration of my family.
I'm sorry you have to go through that... I wish we could go back to a time when family and Christian values meant something... I'm a single father raising a based daughter but being only 14, she'd rather spend the holidays with her friends or her half brother... I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
It already does... She a smart, loving and very intelligent young lady and I have faith in our Father above to help me guide her in and on the right path... Thank you...
I don't agree with Dennis Prager on this one. Yes, if the rift is truly due to politics... okay; but...
My husband's parents have a narcissistic family system that was passive aggressively abusive to him (the scapegoat) and me (the person always saying something is REALLY off here or, "who does this kind of crap?").... laced with enough surface positives and manipulation to confuse the hell out of anyone. The issues I helped him through, many as a result of their parenting, were countless... I'm talking deep psychological and spiritual stuff. We and they are Christians, but I am telling you I could write a book on their Cleavers-on-the-outside/psycho on the inside family.
Add to that the fact that many 80's moms worked and broke the bond (negatively renamed attachment) early .... then usually completely emotionally neglected or sometimes abused their children, and I have little to no sympathy for parents who act like they are the victims in broken relationships. Rarely do I hear of this happening to parents who were healthy, and loved and nurtured their kids well. You should not need to use guilt, obligation, or religious manipulation, as Prager seems to be doing with this very article, for your kids to want to spend time with you. If you are relying on that, instead you need to take a long look in the mirror. Most parents have no idea how much they sucked and how much they neglected their kids.
Add narcissism and you get parents asking these kind of questions centered around THEM and THEIR needs. Wait, who is the adult? And what does it mean to GIVE love expecting nothing in return? Are you able to truly listen and humbly take responsibility for your issues or do you give a trite "get out of jail free/ let's not get emotionally awkward, my ego will divert it back on you" apology followed by excuses and countermeasures?
Yes, forgiveness is necessary, but when the other party (parents in this case) never truly acknowledges their offenses, repents, and changes their ways.... a continued relationship is not wise or healthy. Holding adults accountable for their part in relationships is not what "parents" want to hear. For many, their world centers around them. They can't process something different than their martyr narrative.
I spent almost three decades dealing with this b.s. i only wish I had "divorced" my in-laws many years ago. My life and marriage would have been better and so would my husband's. Sometimes the only way to honor a parent in sincerity is to not be subjected to their harm. Then you can do it vaguely, generally, and from afar.
TLDR: Be a truly good parent and you usually won't have to guilt trip your kids to like you. Reference: my psycho in-laws.
Well, parents can be wrong a lot... Raising a child doesn't come with an instruction manual... Yes, some parents are vile and abusive to their children and can lead to estrangement... Yes, abuse can take many different forms as you pointed out... I'm sorry both you and your husband have had to deal with that and I pray you can both find peace and strength in our Lord Jesus... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers anon...
It’s amazing the hippies who didn’t trust the government in the sixties turned into liberals.Now after 50 years of the government doing shady shit they all trust the government
Agreed... I think it has a lot to do with mk ultra conditioning as well as several other factors that made them more susceptible to that conditioning... Cheers anon...
We have Liberal members of the family and Conservatives. We are getting together tomorrow night for our annual Christmas party. Do you want to know how we do it? We are adults.
Unfortunately, many "adults" have drunk the coolaid of liberalism and have fallen prey to the thought and mind manipulation... I'm happy that you are blessed with the ability to spend this Christmas season with them... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
We didn’t see three of our grandkids for GEOTUS’s entire term. Our DIL whose name is actually Karen refused to allow us to see them at all. Now that potato head is in, they can come. We’re happy but she’s brainwashed each one
Merry Christmas to you DreadNought! And to rest of my frens as well. Luckily no grandkids. Sometimes I wish I was a grandma but then I think I should be grateful for unanswered prayers.
My kids all are based. I'm in the florida keys for Christmas because I can be. All my 4 kids and their families are experiencing the holiday with out us.
We don't put much emphasis on the pagan saturnalia that Christians compromised into believing is the birth of Christ.
By all my study, Sept 11 was Christ birth date and I'm sticking with it. We call it Happy household holidays and celebrate it that way.
Regardless of when you celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, it's still being celebrated... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas...
Unfortunately, I'm among those parents who will be spending the holidays alone because of my conservative beliefs. Praying for a Christmas miracle of the restoration of my family.
I'm sorry you have to go through that... I wish we could go back to a time when family and Christian values meant something... I'm a single father raising a based daughter but being only 14, she'd rather spend the holidays with her friends or her half brother... I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
Thanks fren! It's gonna be all good. I was a single father as well. You are a strong man. All of the sacrifice will pay off.
It already does... She a smart, loving and very intelligent young lady and I have faith in our Father above to help me guide her in and on the right path... Thank you...
You guys are making my allergies worse. 🥲
May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
My warmest wishes for you to have a very happy new year. Merry Christmas.
Thank you...
Raise up a child in the Way they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it.
Jesus said I am the Way.... the truth and the life, n man cometh unto the Father except by me.
Agreed... Cheers fren...
I don't agree with Dennis Prager on this one. Yes, if the rift is truly due to politics... okay; but...
My husband's parents have a narcissistic family system that was passive aggressively abusive to him (the scapegoat) and me (the person always saying something is REALLY off here or, "who does this kind of crap?").... laced with enough surface positives and manipulation to confuse the hell out of anyone. The issues I helped him through, many as a result of their parenting, were countless... I'm talking deep psychological and spiritual stuff. We and they are Christians, but I am telling you I could write a book on their Cleavers-on-the-outside/psycho on the inside family.
Add to that the fact that many 80's moms worked and broke the bond (negatively renamed attachment) early .... then usually completely emotionally neglected or sometimes abused their children, and I have little to no sympathy for parents who act like they are the victims in broken relationships. Rarely do I hear of this happening to parents who were healthy, and loved and nurtured their kids well. You should not need to use guilt, obligation, or religious manipulation, as Prager seems to be doing with this very article, for your kids to want to spend time with you. If you are relying on that, instead you need to take a long look in the mirror. Most parents have no idea how much they sucked and how much they neglected their kids.
Add narcissism and you get parents asking these kind of questions centered around THEM and THEIR needs. Wait, who is the adult? And what does it mean to GIVE love expecting nothing in return? Are you able to truly listen and humbly take responsibility for your issues or do you give a trite "get out of jail free/ let's not get emotionally awkward, my ego will divert it back on you" apology followed by excuses and countermeasures?
Yes, forgiveness is necessary, but when the other party (parents in this case) never truly acknowledges their offenses, repents, and changes their ways.... a continued relationship is not wise or healthy. Holding adults accountable for their part in relationships is not what "parents" want to hear. For many, their world centers around them. They can't process something different than their martyr narrative.
I spent almost three decades dealing with this b.s. i only wish I had "divorced" my in-laws many years ago. My life and marriage would have been better and so would my husband's. Sometimes the only way to honor a parent in sincerity is to not be subjected to their harm. Then you can do it vaguely, generally, and from afar.
TLDR: Be a truly good parent and you usually won't have to guilt trip your kids to like you. Reference: my psycho in-laws.
Well, parents can be wrong a lot... Raising a child doesn't come with an instruction manual... Yes, some parents are vile and abusive to their children and can lead to estrangement... Yes, abuse can take many different forms as you pointed out... I'm sorry both you and your husband have had to deal with that and I pray you can both find peace and strength in our Lord Jesus... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers anon...
I moved 3k miles from our families a couple years after we married. We visited but never moved back. 34 years now.
It’s amazing the hippies who didn’t trust the government in the sixties turned into liberals.Now after 50 years of the government doing shady shit they all trust the government
Agreed... I think it has a lot to do with mk ultra conditioning as well as several other factors that made them more susceptible to that conditioning... Cheers anon...
They became the gov
We have Liberal members of the family and Conservatives. We are getting together tomorrow night for our annual Christmas party. Do you want to know how we do it? We are adults.
Unfortunately, many "adults" have drunk the coolaid of liberalism and have fallen prey to the thought and mind manipulation... I'm happy that you are blessed with the ability to spend this Christmas season with them... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
We didn’t see three of our grandkids for GEOTUS’s entire term. Our DIL whose name is actually Karen refused to allow us to see them at all. Now that potato head is in, they can come. We’re happy but she’s brainwashed each one
I'm glad you get to spend time with them and I pray that she'll wake up and see the truth one day...Merry Christmas to you and yours anon...
We pray too fren. Wishing you a blessed Christmas
Thank you...
My brother in law told his son in law I was crazy and to be careful a-round me. His son in law told me He was a pede too and we laughed about it.
Mine are grown and gone and live halfway across the country. And I have to work on Christmas eve and day.
Well I wish you a very Merry Christmas... Cheers anon...
Thanks. You as well have a great Christmas.
Thank you...
Merry Christmas to you DreadNought! And to rest of my frens as well. Luckily no grandkids. Sometimes I wish I was a grandma but then I think I should be grateful for unanswered prayers.
Thank you and a blessed and Merry Christmas to you...
thank you :)
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You're a lucky individual that raised your children right... May you and your family have a blessed and Merry Christmas... Cheers fren...
My kids all are based. I'm in the florida keys for Christmas because I can be. All my 4 kids and their families are experiencing the holiday with out us.
We don't put much emphasis on the pagan saturnalia that Christians compromised into believing is the birth of Christ.
By all my study, Sept 11 was Christ birth date and I'm sticking with it. We call it Happy household holidays and celebrate it that way.
Regardless of when you celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, it's still being celebrated... May you and yours have a blessed and Merry Christmas...