If we get through tomorrow with no ruling, I think that is a very favorable sign. Not a guarantee. Just a higher likelihood of a good outcome.
If he takes the full amount of time, that is almost certainly because throwing out this election will be virtually a first of its kind with this level of bullshit. Which means that he has to do some heavy research to develop as ironclad a ruling as possible. Because if he throws it out and leaves low hanging fruit for the appellate court (could be court of appeals, could be AZ Supreme Court) to reverse him, he will be fucked and it will have meant nothing. This is probably the hardest opinion he will have ever written. And most lawyers have never written anything to this level.
The remedy is a very complex issue; one that is going to require some serious brain power to work out. Can’t hold a one county one office election under AZ law. Nor under 14th amendment (see bush v. Gore). Unsure if he can order a statewide single office election…maybe? Most likely, if he sides with lake, he will order her certification. Running a new one is probably the lowest hanging fruit to reverse this guy. And dangerous in that doing this wrong could result in a higher court throwing the entire case out because it lacks standing - the final component of standing is the relief available is likely to redress the injury. If he lets the higher court boot the remedy as unlawful, it opens the door to there being no remedy. No remedy = no standing. Case dismissed.
So pray for this guy. Not only does he need nuts of steel; he needs 160 iq brain power.
My biggest concern came in the closing arguments when I realized what Kari's lawyers had to prove. It wasn't as simple as introducing doubt. They had to prove systemic failure that could affect the final outcome. If they didn't accomplish this as a minimum, I'm pretty sure the judge would have ruled already.
Reports; He has five days from the closure of trial to make a determination. He said he had much info to go over. He has to write a report/decision off his findings according to County, State & Federal law. FYI; Judge is former Navy Seal, I hope he remembers his Military and Civilian/Judicial Oaths...
OP what do you mean, he said from the outset it would take 5 days, which is pretty expedient in this case
Thanks! I didn't hear that.
I did not hear that
If we get through tomorrow with no ruling, I think that is a very favorable sign. Not a guarantee. Just a higher likelihood of a good outcome.
If he takes the full amount of time, that is almost certainly because throwing out this election will be virtually a first of its kind with this level of bullshit. Which means that he has to do some heavy research to develop as ironclad a ruling as possible. Because if he throws it out and leaves low hanging fruit for the appellate court (could be court of appeals, could be AZ Supreme Court) to reverse him, he will be fucked and it will have meant nothing. This is probably the hardest opinion he will have ever written. And most lawyers have never written anything to this level.
The remedy is a very complex issue; one that is going to require some serious brain power to work out. Can’t hold a one county one office election under AZ law. Nor under 14th amendment (see bush v. Gore). Unsure if he can order a statewide single office election…maybe? Most likely, if he sides with lake, he will order her certification. Running a new one is probably the lowest hanging fruit to reverse this guy. And dangerous in that doing this wrong could result in a higher court throwing the entire case out because it lacks standing - the final component of standing is the relief available is likely to redress the injury. If he lets the higher court boot the remedy as unlawful, it opens the door to there being no remedy. No remedy = no standing. Case dismissed.
So pray for this guy. Not only does he need nuts of steel; he needs 160 iq brain power.
I like your username lol btw nice explanation !
Their username sure checks out!
No kidding right lol ,, thanks for saying that ,, I could not remember the slogan used ! ha ha
You're 100% spot on. It's a very complex decision that needs to be written so it can't be over turned.
People act like the judge will say "Do over!" and we will have a new election.
Is dragging it out to the courts of appeal the plan? Seems likely.
Thank you for that. I feel better. Yes we all need to pray 🙏
He's shitting his pants because he knows she's won the case??
Yup and he has to worry about Deep State / Cartel coercion and / or retribution
Zackly
I think this is a good sign....
My biggest concern came in the closing arguments when I realized what Kari's lawyers had to prove. It wasn't as simple as introducing doubt. They had to prove systemic failure that could affect the final outcome. If they didn't accomplish this as a minimum, I'm pretty sure the judge would have ruled already.
Yes. He did set the bar very high. I think it was met but in this corrupt system you never know
I think the bar was to show 'intentional' failure. I winced when that word came up in his closing.
I think that judge is gonna be threatened by the cartel to find “ not enough evidence”.
We will see what happens.
Reports; He has five days from the closure of trial to make a determination. He said he had much info to go over. He has to write a report/decision off his findings according to County, State & Federal law. FYI; Judge is former Navy Seal, I hope he remembers his Military and Civilian/Judicial Oaths...
Furiously trying to come up with plausible deniability