The child trafficker is 100% an accurate portrayal of someone who is demonized.
The guy having a nice chat with the “demons” who seem to have no problem talking about Jesus and using His name… gives me pause. They actually seem calmer saying Jesus Name than the child trafficker who isn’t being confronted with any sort of Christian exorcism.
Nowhere in Scripture are we commanded to have conversations with lying spirits.
Fwiw I’ve encountered demonized people and seen people delivered. It’s usually loud, uncomfortably ugly and goes something like “Leave in Yeshua’s Name!” NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!YES LEAVE NOW IN YESHUA’S NAME
No nice chats. No intel gathering to suit an agenda. No recording devices.
The man doing the “deliverance” may be genuine. But he’s definitely not Scriptural nor following Yeshua’s example. Hence my doubt.
I don't think he was doing an exorcism. Jesus talked to demons on several occasions. Why are you assuming because he was talking to demons, he felt "commanded" to do so? I was curious why in the first video he had his hand on her head, but not in the 2nd video.
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." I did notice the demon possessed person trembling a lot, but at the name of Jesus...calming somewhat. I have NO experience dealing with demons, but I do believe the man spoke with God's authority. It would be interesting to see that man interviewed to hear what he has to say. I think satan likes to boast and believe that he has the victory, but ultimately he knows he is defeated. This was an exceptionally interesting video in my estimation but I can understand your skepticism.
You could very well be right. And I could be totally mistaken.
However, when Messiah spoke to demons it was to teach His disciples (and us) and was brief questions like, “What is your name?” It wasn’t to gain intel on what Rome had planned concerning world domination.
And the Scriptures are extremely clear about forbidding us to practice necromancy (communication with spirits of the dead/demons). They are all lying spirits so any intel we receive should be discounted. Even if it seems to contain a kernel of truth, none of us are above being deceived - especially if we are entertaining such conversations.
Having said that - I should have stated earlier - I do believe that there is an occult/sorcery element to the injections. Early on in the roll out there was a testimony of a Russian Orthodox priest who took one injection and was demonized as a result. He repented, was forgiven and freed.
But yeah… maybe some well-meaning Christian who plays fast and loose with God’s commands tried to help God by getting vaxx intel from demons on camera and uploaded it to social media. Maybe.
My inner discernment though, going from experience, tells me the human trafficker WAS demonized. The others seemed… like a talented actress could repeat those performances quite easily.
Well, you make good points and we do need to practice discernment. I don't have quite the skepticism you have, but it would be really interesting to have more info on the people involved in the 2nd and 3rd examples.
You make good points as well. And I agree with wanting more information.
My skepticism is, when all is said and done, not directed at the spiritual reality that surrounds all of us and the Cosmic War that is playing out. It’s directed moreso at people.
I’ve had too much experience with actual demons and with human deceivers (wolves in sheep’s clothing) that God has finally gotten the lesson into my thick skull - Weigh everything against His Word.
False miracles are a reality and they will increase. Unfortunately too many Christians are too quick to trust just because something supernatural is taking place. The Scriptures are the standard and too few have even read them. But we humans love the hype, the light show, the bells and whistles… and Satan knows this about us.
If the Russian Orthodox priest was actually a believer, he could not have had a demon, unless I misunderstood your term 'demonized.' I take it you meant a demon possessed him at that point? That could not happen if he were actually a Christian because Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There is no room for demons.
There is no Scriptural basis for the term “Possession”. It is a Church tradition that has deceived many Believers into believing they can’t be harassed by unclean spirits.
I use the term “Demonized” because it is a more accurate description of what the Greek Manuscripts are discussing.
There are varying degrees of demonization and the control these spirits have over an individual is proportional to the amount and type of unrepentant sin present (sometimes children are affected based on their parents sin as well). And Christians/Believers most assuredly can have unresolved sin and suffer demonic attacks and enslavement as a consequence.
I hope that clarifies what I was talking about for you.
The child trafficker is 100% an accurate portrayal of someone who is demonized.
The guy having a nice chat with the “demons” who seem to have no problem talking about Jesus and using His name… gives me pause. They actually seem calmer saying Jesus Name than the child trafficker who isn’t being confronted with any sort of Christian exorcism.
Nowhere in Scripture are we commanded to have conversations with lying spirits.
Fwiw I’ve encountered demonized people and seen people delivered. It’s usually loud, uncomfortably ugly and goes something like “Leave in Yeshua’s Name!” NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!YES LEAVE NOW IN YESHUA’S NAME
No nice chats. No intel gathering to suit an agenda. No recording devices.
The man doing the “deliverance” may be genuine. But he’s definitely not Scriptural nor following Yeshua’s example. Hence my doubt.
I don't think he was doing an exorcism. Jesus talked to demons on several occasions. Why are you assuming because he was talking to demons, he felt "commanded" to do so? I was curious why in the first video he had his hand on her head, but not in the 2nd video.
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." I did notice the demon possessed person trembling a lot, but at the name of Jesus...calming somewhat. I have NO experience dealing with demons, but I do believe the man spoke with God's authority. It would be interesting to see that man interviewed to hear what he has to say. I think satan likes to boast and believe that he has the victory, but ultimately he knows he is defeated. This was an exceptionally interesting video in my estimation but I can understand your skepticism.
You could very well be right. And I could be totally mistaken.
However, when Messiah spoke to demons it was to teach His disciples (and us) and was brief questions like, “What is your name?” It wasn’t to gain intel on what Rome had planned concerning world domination.
And the Scriptures are extremely clear about forbidding us to practice necromancy (communication with spirits of the dead/demons). They are all lying spirits so any intel we receive should be discounted. Even if it seems to contain a kernel of truth, none of us are above being deceived - especially if we are entertaining such conversations.
Having said that - I should have stated earlier - I do believe that there is an occult/sorcery element to the injections. Early on in the roll out there was a testimony of a Russian Orthodox priest who took one injection and was demonized as a result. He repented, was forgiven and freed.
But yeah… maybe some well-meaning Christian who plays fast and loose with God’s commands tried to help God by getting vaxx intel from demons on camera and uploaded it to social media. Maybe.
My inner discernment though, going from experience, tells me the human trafficker WAS demonized. The others seemed… like a talented actress could repeat those performances quite easily.
Well, you make good points and we do need to practice discernment. I don't have quite the skepticism you have, but it would be really interesting to have more info on the people involved in the 2nd and 3rd examples.
You make good points as well. And I agree with wanting more information.
My skepticism is, when all is said and done, not directed at the spiritual reality that surrounds all of us and the Cosmic War that is playing out. It’s directed moreso at people.
I’ve had too much experience with actual demons and with human deceivers (wolves in sheep’s clothing) that God has finally gotten the lesson into my thick skull - Weigh everything against His Word.
False miracles are a reality and they will increase. Unfortunately too many Christians are too quick to trust just because something supernatural is taking place. The Scriptures are the standard and too few have even read them. But we humans love the hype, the light show, the bells and whistles… and Satan knows this about us.
God bless you. Thanks for the convo.
If the Russian Orthodox priest was actually a believer, he could not have had a demon, unless I misunderstood your term 'demonized.' I take it you meant a demon possessed him at that point? That could not happen if he were actually a Christian because Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There is no room for demons.
There is no Scriptural basis for the term “Possession”. It is a Church tradition that has deceived many Believers into believing they can’t be harassed by unclean spirits.
I use the term “Demonized” because it is a more accurate description of what the Greek Manuscripts are discussing.
There are varying degrees of demonization and the control these spirits have over an individual is proportional to the amount and type of unrepentant sin present (sometimes children are affected based on their parents sin as well). And Christians/Believers most assuredly can have unresolved sin and suffer demonic attacks and enslavement as a consequence.
I hope that clarifies what I was talking about for you.
God bless you! Have a great New Year!