Ok, look I get the whole ""He kidnapped me"" thing, but you mist Remove EMOTION from the whole equation, because LAW does NOT include how you FEEL....
Law is a FORCE, it has NO EMOTION it at best, and under the best of intentions, is only FORCE with direction....
I agree with you, I do not like anyone distorting the Truth about History in any direction that leads to one side or the other as being more Moral or Superior or whatever....
So I want to look at BOTH SIDES, from a Superior point of view, and have a Look from above, like someone looking at ants, instead of some one looking at it AS an Ant...
So you adhere your opinions to Clowns? The Fire Eaters were akin to ANTIFA today, just a bunch of idiots who really had no home, were paid to cause trouble, and had wealthy backers, only looking to foment strife, same as ANTIFA, and BLM....
Oh I intend to fully go therough evey part you've written, but since it is New Years, I wish you a very Happy and Prosperous and Healthy and fortunate New Yaer to You and your Family and Friends....
Ok, look I get the whole ""He kidnapped me"" thing, but you mist Remove EMOTION from the whole equation, because LAW does NOT include how you FEEL....
Emotion, like the random ALL-CAPS usage? You're the one exhibiting quite a lot of emotion in this debate. Indeed, the law doesn't care how you feel. Which is why I keep referring to it.
So I want to look at BOTH SIDES, from a Superior point of view, and have a Look from above, like someone looking at ants, instead of some one looking at it AS an Ant...
Sure, which is why I sympathize with the majority of the rebels, who were duped into stupidly supporting and dying for an unjust cause. Like Lincoln and Grant, I would have urged mercy for the dupes (majority). Only the rebel ringleaders should have been punished with any level of severity... I think that the 14th's prohibition of being allowed to serve in government was fair, although there should have been no opportunity for those rights to ever be restored. Look what happened, after Reconstruction, former rebel Dems stole elections in the former rebel states and legalized themselves back into power. Where I disagree with Lincoln, is that the top ringleaders, including those guilty of treason (violating their constitutional oaths... former federal office holders and military), should have been more harshly punished. Death sentence or at the least, exile for the top rebel leaders. I contend that because the penalties weren't harsh enough, and not enough examples were made, that allowed the former rebels to basically return to a "legalized" system of slavery in the former rebel states for another 100 years.
So you adhere your opinions to Clowns? The Fire Eaters were akin to ANTIFA today, just a bunch of idiots who really had no home, were paid to cause trouble, and had wealthy backers, only looking to foment strife, same as ANTIFA, and BLM....
Actually, the real fireeaters are the ones pulling the strings to sucker average people to join and support terrorists like ANTIFA and BLM. Follow the money. Who funds these groups. Modern fireeaters have vastly improved their ability to hide in the shadows, though with the digital age, it has also become more possible to identify, expose and catch them.
Oh I intend to fully go therough evey part you've written, but since it is New Years, I wish you a very Happy and Prosperous and Healthy and fortunate New Yaer to You and your Family and Friends.... For now, I'ma Watch the last episodes of TDW.... Laters my Fren....
By all means, make every effort you desire. I can dance all day and happy to do it. Iron sharpens iron.
The 14th Amendment was created in order to fully fly against the Article 4, Section 2 State Citizens, which ny all Rights and Laws were "Explicitly untouchable by the Federation in it's claims or dealings, that is Specifically why they didn't bother to force the Issue with General Lee and President Jefferson, there was no possible way to Prosecute them for Treason, because they knew that the Unite States is NOT an actual Nation, bit a Conglomeration of Various Nations....
No southerner ever committed Treason, but any Northerners did.....
The 14th Amendment was created in order to fully fly against the Article 4, Section 2 State Citizens
It was actually enacted because former rebel Demcrat shits were continuing to violate the constitutional rights of American citizens, e.g. the recently freed blacks. The amendment was ratified. It's legally binding as part of the Constitution.
why they didn't bother to force the Issue with General Lee and President Jefferson,
You should do more research on the indictments against both, who were actually very close to being fully prosecuted, had it not been for the political pressure to avoid making them into martyrs which risked encouraging former rebels to reignite open rebellion.
there was no possible way to Prosecute them for Treason, because they knew that the Unite States is NOT an actual Nation, bit a Conglomeration of Various Nations....
The USA is a nation and always has been, originally employing a governance structure a a confederation and then with the transition to a Constitution, a federation. Again, dual sovereignty.
No southerner ever committed Treason, but any Northerners did.....
Every politician and member of the military who took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the USA, and then took up arms, aided or abetted rebellion against the USA, committed treason. The many thousands of rebel traitors should have counted their blessings that Lincoln was as merciful as he was.
It, the 14th Amendment, was only ratified BEcause the U.S. Army went into a State and physically removed their entire Legislature, then grabbed Civilians, unelected people, off the streets, made them take seats in that legislature, and forced them to vote FOR the 14th, at the point of bayonets, that is NOT Proper Ratification, it's Unconstitutional....
I believe it was Virginia, or one of the Carolinas, but i happened, unlike the Original 13th Amendment, that gives Teeth to the Nobility Clause, but cannot be found anywhere as an Amendment, yet it lasted on the Books Officially, until sometime around 1900, when it was last published in like the Wisconsin or Michigan State Statutes....
Ok, look I get the whole ""He kidnapped me"" thing, but you mist Remove EMOTION from the whole equation, because LAW does NOT include how you FEEL....
Law is a FORCE, it has NO EMOTION it at best, and under the best of intentions, is only FORCE with direction....
I agree with you, I do not like anyone distorting the Truth about History in any direction that leads to one side or the other as being more Moral or Superior or whatever....
So I want to look at BOTH SIDES, from a Superior point of view, and have a Look from above, like someone looking at ants, instead of some one looking at it AS an Ant...
So you adhere your opinions to Clowns? The Fire Eaters were akin to ANTIFA today, just a bunch of idiots who really had no home, were paid to cause trouble, and had wealthy backers, only looking to foment strife, same as ANTIFA, and BLM....
Oh I intend to fully go therough evey part you've written, but since it is New Years, I wish you a very Happy and Prosperous and Healthy and fortunate New Yaer to You and your Family and Friends....
For now, I'ma Watch the last episodes of TDW....
Laters my Fren....
Emotion, like the random ALL-CAPS usage? You're the one exhibiting quite a lot of emotion in this debate. Indeed, the law doesn't care how you feel. Which is why I keep referring to it.
Sure, which is why I sympathize with the majority of the rebels, who were duped into stupidly supporting and dying for an unjust cause. Like Lincoln and Grant, I would have urged mercy for the dupes (majority). Only the rebel ringleaders should have been punished with any level of severity... I think that the 14th's prohibition of being allowed to serve in government was fair, although there should have been no opportunity for those rights to ever be restored. Look what happened, after Reconstruction, former rebel Dems stole elections in the former rebel states and legalized themselves back into power. Where I disagree with Lincoln, is that the top ringleaders, including those guilty of treason (violating their constitutional oaths... former federal office holders and military), should have been more harshly punished. Death sentence or at the least, exile for the top rebel leaders. I contend that because the penalties weren't harsh enough, and not enough examples were made, that allowed the former rebels to basically return to a "legalized" system of slavery in the former rebel states for another 100 years.
Actually, the real fireeaters are the ones pulling the strings to sucker average people to join and support terrorists like ANTIFA and BLM. Follow the money. Who funds these groups. Modern fireeaters have vastly improved their ability to hide in the shadows, though with the digital age, it has also become more possible to identify, expose and catch them.
By all means, make every effort you desire. I can dance all day and happy to do it. Iron sharpens iron.
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The 14th Amendment was created in order to fully fly against the Article 4, Section 2 State Citizens, which ny all Rights and Laws were "Explicitly untouchable by the Federation in it's claims or dealings, that is Specifically why they didn't bother to force the Issue with General Lee and President Jefferson, there was no possible way to Prosecute them for Treason, because they knew that the Unite States is NOT an actual Nation, bit a Conglomeration of Various Nations....
No southerner ever committed Treason, but any Northerners did.....
It was actually enacted because former rebel Demcrat shits were continuing to violate the constitutional rights of American citizens, e.g. the recently freed blacks. The amendment was ratified. It's legally binding as part of the Constitution.
You should do more research on the indictments against both, who were actually very close to being fully prosecuted, had it not been for the political pressure to avoid making them into martyrs which risked encouraging former rebels to reignite open rebellion.
The USA is a nation and always has been, originally employing a governance structure a a confederation and then with the transition to a Constitution, a federation. Again, dual sovereignty.
Every politician and member of the military who took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the USA, and then took up arms, aided or abetted rebellion against the USA, committed treason. The many thousands of rebel traitors should have counted their blessings that Lincoln was as merciful as he was.
It, the 14th Amendment, was only ratified BEcause the U.S. Army went into a State and physically removed their entire Legislature, then grabbed Civilians, unelected people, off the streets, made them take seats in that legislature, and forced them to vote FOR the 14th, at the point of bayonets, that is NOT Proper Ratification, it's Unconstitutional....
I believe it was Virginia, or one of the Carolinas, but i happened, unlike the Original 13th Amendment, that gives Teeth to the Nobility Clause, but cannot be found anywhere as an Amendment, yet it lasted on the Books Officially, until sometime around 1900, when it was last published in like the Wisconsin or Michigan State Statutes....