I was a career correction officer. I know what "strip searches" are, and "pat searches." This sounds to me like a modified "pat search" with the removal of some clothing. I won't go into detail what a "strip search" entails, but it involves the complete removal of clothing, and the direct exposure of bodily cavities.
The search described in the article sounds like a way to essentially prove there is no contraband, without the school nurse actually having to touch the individual. Depending upon local rules and legal definitions for contraband in this school district, this type of search may be perfectly legal and spelled out in district guidelines. Keep in mind, there may have been enough evidence to justify this search. Some schools have a no-tolerance policy for contraband. If I was a parent, I would want the school to do everything within its power to protect my child, if there was a risk of potential contraband being passed around.
I don't know about where you or the girl are from but my state includes stripping the person down to underwear in the definition of 'strip search.' I consider people who attempt to justify this activity because of the "danger" of "contraband" such as vape pens to be part of the problem.
Michigan Legislature - Section 764.25a
http://www.legislature.mi.gov › mileg
(1) As used in this section, "strip search" means a search which requires a person to remove his or her clothing to expose underclothing, breasts, buttocks, ...
I won't argue with you, but the link you provided didn't confirm your claim. I didn't understand how to search that site, and wasn't interested enough to bother. I'm not surprised that a state such as Michigan might have different rules than other states.
What you are doing is arguing for "exceptions," i.e., vape pens aren't as dangerous as knives, etc. This is what's wrong with today's legal system. If you allow kids to bring vape pens to school (the majority of which use THC analogues), the easier it is to funnel things like fentanyl. Trying to claim that I am "part of the problem" is completely unjustified and misguided. Children have no justification WHATSOEVER to have this kind of material...especially in a school.
All I did was make a simple observation, that what was described in the article doesn't match the definition of what I was trained, as a law enforcement officer, as a "strip search." From there, all of a sudden, I am "...part of the problem," as described by an individual who likely has no understanding whatsoever of controlling either contraband or the criminal element.
Quite frankly, you are looking for a fight, and I'm not interested. Act like an adult for once.
I think the punishment should fit the crime. I also think minors are US citizens and have protection under the Constitution from unreasonable search and seizure.
(2) "Strip search" means an inspection of the genitalia, buttocks, breasts, or undergarments of a person that is preceded by the removal or rearrangement of some or all of the person's clothing that directly covers the person's genitalia, buttocks, breasts, or undergarments and that is conducted visually, manually, by ...
If it was your daughter caught up in this controversy, I think you'd have bigger problems than how she was allegedly treated...which I doubt this article describes accurately.
I was a career correction officer. I know what "strip searches" are, and "pat searches." This sounds to me like a modified "pat search" with the removal of some clothing. I won't go into detail what a "strip search" entails, but it involves the complete removal of clothing, and the direct exposure of bodily cavities.
The search described in the article sounds like a way to essentially prove there is no contraband, without the school nurse actually having to touch the individual. Depending upon local rules and legal definitions for contraband in this school district, this type of search may be perfectly legal and spelled out in district guidelines. Keep in mind, there may have been enough evidence to justify this search. Some schools have a no-tolerance policy for contraband. If I was a parent, I would want the school to do everything within its power to protect my child, if there was a risk of potential contraband being passed around.
I don't know about where you or the girl are from but my state includes stripping the person down to underwear in the definition of 'strip search.' I consider people who attempt to justify this activity because of the "danger" of "contraband" such as vape pens to be part of the problem.
Michigan Legislature - Section 764.25a http://www.legislature.mi.gov › mileg (1) As used in this section, "strip search" means a search which requires a person to remove his or her clothing to expose underclothing, breasts, buttocks, ...
I won't argue with you, but the link you provided didn't confirm your claim. I didn't understand how to search that site, and wasn't interested enough to bother. I'm not surprised that a state such as Michigan might have different rules than other states.
What you are doing is arguing for "exceptions," i.e., vape pens aren't as dangerous as knives, etc. This is what's wrong with today's legal system. If you allow kids to bring vape pens to school (the majority of which use THC analogues), the easier it is to funnel things like fentanyl. Trying to claim that I am "part of the problem" is completely unjustified and misguided. Children have no justification WHATSOEVER to have this kind of material...especially in a school.
All I did was make a simple observation, that what was described in the article doesn't match the definition of what I was trained, as a law enforcement officer, as a "strip search." From there, all of a sudden, I am "...part of the problem," as described by an individual who likely has no understanding whatsoever of controlling either contraband or the criminal element.
Quite frankly, you are looking for a fight, and I'm not interested. Act like an adult for once.
You are directly contradicting a plain fact I quoted from the actual law so I don't know how that is not an argument! My apologies for not providing the proper link. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(eiujvfag2skynw1jt0v2dof0))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-764-25a
I think the punishment should fit the crime. I also think minors are US citizens and have protection under the Constitution from unreasonable search and seizure.
Law in Ohio where she is from.
(2) "Strip search" means an inspection of the genitalia, buttocks, breasts, or undergarments of a person that is preceded by the removal or rearrangement of some or all of the person's clothing that directly covers the person's genitalia, buttocks, breasts, or undergarments and that is conducted visually, manually, by ...
Section 2933.32 | Body cavity search, strip search - Ohio Laws https://codes.ohio.gov › ohio-revised-code › section-2933
If it was your daughter caught up in this controversy, I think you'd have bigger problems than how she was allegedly treated...which I doubt this article describes accurately.