So we listened to Riley's interview linked in another thread. Afterward, we went for a walk and the conversation naturally lent itself to what we had just heard. My husband is a God fearing patriot who served two tours in Iraq. He is military through and through.
My position: If the military didn't remove bodily autonomy by compelling members of the armed forces to put things into their bodies that they didn't want, people like Riley would still be in the military.
His position: Members of the armed services lose the right to bodily autonomy when they join. If one is ordered to take a given series of vaccines or meds, then one should have faith in the higher-ups who've deemed it necessary and follow those orders. If members of the military are allowed to pick and choose what they put in their bodies, then the chain of command breaks down and weakens the military as a whole. He went on to say that he was given all kinds of things when he served and he never questioned it. "It's the military way."
My counter position: But the c-19 vaccine was experimental and was only authorized for emergency use, which is why the FDA rushed the approval in order to give a legal leg to stand on with regard to the mandate. I contend that if members of the military have the right to refuse to put something in their bodies, then at least they are protected from anyone at the top who is involved in nefarious actions.
His contention: the military can't categorize orders (medical, combat etc) and function properly. An order is an order. Those who can't or won't follow them have the opportunity to leave the military.
We rarely talk about this kind of thing and today I was reminded of why...I can't help but wonder based on the Riley interview and papers if the CCP wasn't fully aware of this military mindset and this was part of their plan to weaken our military all along...with the help of JB of course...
As a USAF veteran, I used to think like your husband. I remember at OTS, lining up to get a series of shots every 3 weeks with the guns. I would get a fever and feel sick after each set. Who knows what they really put in me? (supposedly it was flu, yellow fever and what were generally acceptable shots back then.)
But officers cannot give illegal orders. The shot that military members are receiving is experimental and thus it is an illegal order to force subordinates to take it. People in the chains of command (including medical) have to know somewhere in that chain that it was a bait and switch. They have a duty to verify that they are not giving an unlawful order.
This is the answer right here. Forcing military members to take untested, experimental injections on pain of having their careers destroyed is in no way legal.
Every soldier has a DUTY to disobey illegal orders, which is why every one of them discharged for refusing the shots should immediately be reinstated if they wish to return.
Absolutely! And we discussed illegal orders and he agrees that illegal orders should not be followed. I argued that the reason the FDA rushed the approval of the vax was so there would be a legal basis for mandating this on the military...never mind that they didn't provide the approved version...that was just a formality....and another branch of our argument.
No one should be forced into an experiment is exactly right. That is not the point of the military